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MelhemX Jan 12 @ 11:24am
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Let us buy the old battlepass, and future ones that expire
allow us to buy the season 0 battlepass and future expired battlepass. having a battlepass that respect players time is great and all, but season gating the ability to buy the battlepass is not great. allow the purchase of old battlepass would not effect the game in a negative way, it would be favor for the player who are new.
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kaisha Jan 12 @ 11:33am 
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nah I dont think this should happen imo. the system of being able to progress the older battlepass rewards those players who bought it to be able to get that exclusive content from that battle pass even after it ends. the point of a battle pass (in this game atleast) is to grind for exclusive content that will never come back. (like the ranked skins for each season.) It's only fair for people who are willing to buy the battlepass during that specific season to get exclusive content. of course its unfair to newer players who want a specific skin, but they can always implement a way to earn that skin either through challenges (like proficiency) or possibly a limited time item shop cosmetic.
Last edited by kaisha; Jan 12 @ 11:39am
Zanth Jan 12 @ 11:46am 
The lack of ability to purchase prior battle passes is just a punishment for players that didn't get in on time. Someone out there is going to step into this game for the first time in season 3 and be disappointed that despite being willing to pay for access, they can't. People affected by natural disasters (Currently the L.A. wild fires), people deployed in the military, the list goes on...

Ironically, the game wants players to pay to advertise the other Marvel games here with sprays, but it won't accept money from people that want to buy visual content for this title. Besides. it only cosmetic - they, like us, aren't able to buy progress or power.
FOMO, my friend. It is as they intend it.
Candle Jack Jan 12 @ 12:49pm 
They will re-release that stuff eventually. All team shooters with micro transactions do.

Originally posted by kaisha:
nah I dont think this should happen imo. the system of being able to progress the older battlepass rewards those players who bought it to be able to get that exclusive content from that battle pass even after it ends. the point of a battle pass (in this game atleast) is to grind for exclusive content that will never come back. (like the ranked skins for each season.) It's only fair for people who are willing to buy the battlepass during that specific season to get exclusive content. of course its unfair to newer players who want a specific skin, but they can always implement a way to earn that skin either through challenges (like proficiency) or possibly a limited time item shop cosmetic.

That's a cute naive idea there, but the company wants to make money. They're inventing scarcity & demand. Sooner or later they will create some sort of marketplace to make those things available, or do lootboxes, or some sort of way to revisit old content. There is absolutely 0% chance they're going to be making any content entirely event exclusive with the exception of tournament/ranked items for seasons.

I don't know how many teams shooters with micro-transactions you've played but this is always how it goes down. Devs aren't going to leave money on the table just to protect your feelings.
Crunchy[Daz] (Banned) Jan 12 @ 12:52pm 
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You know what else you could do? Is just log in, buy the battlepass and leave. Like, even if you aren't playing the game. If its so important, just buy it when its available.

FYI, FOMO Is a personal issue. If you don't like it, then work on resolving it instead of blaming everyone but yourself.
Last edited by Crunchy[Daz]; Jan 12 @ 12:53pm
Originally posted by CrunchyDaz:
You know what else you could do? Is just log in, buy the battlepass and leave. Like, even if you aren't playing the game. If its so important, just buy it when its available.

FYI, FOMO Is a personal issue. If you don't like it, then work on resolving it instead of blaming everyone but yourself.

Spoken like someone who doesn't have to pay bills or balance a household budget lol

You talk like this isn't artificial scarcity/demand. Anyone who defends exclusivity of digital content is just dumb, sorry, not sorry.

Like, look at Sony, lol. Decades of console exclusives being rebooted/remastered and re-released on PC. Don't get me wrong, from the point of the seller, it's brilliant, they'll double or triple their original sales of those titles. But from a sheer consumerist stand point, it's exploitation of the highest order.

Different content, same issue. When it's a digital product, there is absolutely no such thing as scarcity, it's only invented, and will only ever be maintained until the amount of profit that could be made from ending the scarcity is an amount the produces/devs/publishers can no longer ignore.

I would rather then charge more & keep it available in perpetuity than do this crap.
Last edited by Candle Jack; Jan 12 @ 1:01pm
kaisha Jan 12 @ 2:08pm 
Originally posted by Ostrich in space:
Originally posted by kaisha:
nah I dont think this should happen imo. the system of being able to progress the older battlepass rewards those players who bought it to be able to get that exclusive content from that battle pass even after it ends. the point of a battle pass (in this game atleast) is to grind for exclusive content that will never come back. (like the ranked skins for each season.) It's only fair for people who are willing to buy the battlepass during that specific season to get exclusive content. of course its unfair to newer players who want a specific skin, but they can always implement a way to earn that skin either through challenges (like proficiency) or possibly a limited time item shop cosmetic.
Shut the ♥♥♥♥ up already man. I played the beta and got the cyan venom skin and adam warlock vs venom player card and I'd still say let players earn those. FOMO is ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ stupid it doesn't reward anyone except people who happened to be playing the game during that time. Players who didn't play during that season would still have to spend the money to get access to that previous battlepass so what difference does it make if they weren't around then compared to now?

Nobody is getting rewarded with these crappy battlepass systems.
I played during the beta too? Those are two entirely different situation. One where you can’t control it, and one where you can. I agree the beta skins should be obtainable since not everybody was able to play, but it’s different for the battlepass because the player can decide whether or not they want to spend money on it. They have a month to think about it, and they can progress the battle pass normally once it ends. Two entirely different situations or “exclusive content”
kaisha Jan 12 @ 2:14pm 
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Originally posted by Candle Jack:
Originally posted by CrunchyDaz:
You know what else you could do? Is just log in, buy the battlepass and leave. Like, even if you aren't playing the game. If its so important, just buy it when its available.

FYI, FOMO Is a personal issue. If you don't like it, then work on resolving it instead of blaming everyone but yourself.

Spoken like someone who doesn't have to pay bills or balance a household budget lol

You talk like this isn't artificial scarcity/demand. Anyone who defends exclusivity of digital content is just dumb, sorry, not sorry.

Like, look at Sony, lol. Decades of console exclusives being rebooted/remastered and re-released on PC. Don't get me wrong, from the point of the seller, it's brilliant, they'll double or triple their original sales of those titles. But from a sheer consumerist stand point, it's exploitation of the highest order.

Different content, same issue. When it's a digital product, there is absolutely no such thing as scarcity, it's only invented, and will only ever be maintained until the amount of profit that could be made from ending the scarcity is an amount the produces/devs/publishers can no longer ignore.

I would rather then charge more & keep it available in perpetuity than do this crap.
This is just reach. I’m currently living in an apartment and I still have a good 5 minutes of my day to spend $10 to get the battlepass and not worry about it ending. This is as good as it’s going to get. Yes exclusive content is obviously not gonna stay exclusive, and I’m expecting those same skins from the battlepass to come back one way or another, but it’ll most likely be months or years before then so it’s not like it matters. I can get that same exact skin from the battlepass for free I paid 10 months ago than pay almost $20 in the near future when it comes back.
Last edited by kaisha; Jan 12 @ 2:18pm
Realm Jan 12 @ 2:18pm 
Originally posted by CrunchyDaz:
You know what else you could do? Is just log in, buy the battlepass and leave. Like, even if you aren't playing the game. If its so important, just buy it when its available.

FYI, FOMO Is a personal issue. If you don't like it, then work on resolving it instead of blaming everyone but yourself.
FOMO actively exploits human psychology. If you like it, then you're either a paid shill or you were brainwashed into enjoying being whipped and preyed upon. Coming out of the worst of microtransaction fads in the 2010s and still actively supporting predatory systems like lootboxes, gacha, limited rotation with no guarantee of return and similar is absolutely astounding.
Shinkie Jan 12 @ 2:20pm 
Down the line letting people buy old battle passes after a period of time is not a bad business idea. I think it should be about a year after release though so those that bought it can feel the exclusivity for awhile.
Originally posted by MelhemX:
allow us to buy the season 0 battlepass and future expired battlepass. having a battlepass that respect players time is great and all, but season gating the ability to buy the battlepass is not great. allow the purchase of old battlepass would not effect the game in a negative way, it would be favor for the player who are new.
it is predatory by design its the same Vaulting ( BUY NOW BEFORE ITS GONE FOREVER!)

Disney uesd to do it all the time

Nintendo is bad at this as well


the skins you missed are gone in the game but not for you
you did not buy then so you miss out now

next time buy buy buy so YOU don't miss out like the broke boy you must be

you don't want to miss out and show your friends how poor you are do ya slugger?

BUY BUY BUY NOW BEFORE YOU MISS OUT
Airkixer Jan 12 @ 2:23pm 
This battlepass system is one of the better ones in recent games. Does that make battlepasses a consumer friendly monetisation? No, and they never will be.

Originally posted by kaisha:
kaisha Jan 12 @ 2:30pm 
Originally posted by Airkixer:
This battlepass system is one of the better ones in recent games. Does that make battlepasses a consumer friendly monetisation? No, and they never will be.

Originally posted by kaisha:
Battlepass will never be consumer friendly. At its core, it was always there to benefit the studio more than the players. Players will still buy it of course if the game gives them a good reason to, which this one is. This system is willing to respect the customers time by giving them as long as they need to finish the battlepass they paid for, with an infinite amount of time to finish it.
Originally posted by Candle Jack:
Originally posted by CrunchyDaz:
You know what else you could do? Is just log in, buy the battlepass and leave. Like, even if you aren't playing the game. If its so important, just buy it when its available.

FYI, FOMO Is a personal issue. If you don't like it, then work on resolving it instead of blaming everyone but yourself.

Spoken like someone who doesn't have to pay bills or balance a household budget lol

You talk like this isn't artificial scarcity/demand. Anyone who defends exclusivity of digital content is just dumb, sorry, not sorry.

Like, look at Sony, lol. Decades of console exclusives being rebooted/remastered and re-released on PC. Don't get me wrong, from the point of the seller, it's brilliant, they'll double or triple their original sales of those titles. But from a sheer consumerist stand point, it's exploitation of the highest order.

Different content, same issue. When it's a digital product, there is absolutely no such thing as scarcity, it's only invented, and will only ever be maintained until the amount of profit that could be made from ending the scarcity is an amount the produces/devs/publishers can no longer ignore.

I would rather then charge more & keep it available in perpetuity than do this crap.

PREACH BROTHER
Sibirian Jan 15 @ 5:16am 
Originally posted by Candle Jack:
Originally posted by CrunchyDaz:
You know what else you could do? Is just log in, buy the battlepass and leave. Like, even if you aren't playing the game. If its so important, just buy it when its available.

FYI, FOMO Is a personal issue. If you don't like it, then work on resolving it instead of blaming everyone but yourself.

Spoken like someone who doesn't have to pay bills or balance a household budget lol

You talk like this isn't artificial scarcity/demand. Anyone who defends exclusivity of digital content is just dumb, sorry, not sorry.

Like, look at Sony, lol. Decades of console exclusives being rebooted/remastered and re-released on PC. Don't get me wrong, from the point of the seller, it's brilliant, they'll double or triple their original sales of those titles. But from a sheer consumerist stand point, it's exploitation of the highest order.

Different content, same issue. When it's a digital product, there is absolutely no such thing as scarcity, it's only invented, and will only ever be maintained until the amount of profit that could be made from ending the scarcity is an amount the produces/devs/publishers can no longer ignore.

I would rather then charge more & keep it available in perpetuity than do this crap.
Imagine carrying so much about digital cosmetic stuff that will go away, the moment publishers shut down their games.

Literally nearly every game with battle pass does this to cash grab as many people as possible through fomo and it works.
If this wouldn't work, F2P games would die in no time when tgey only build on fomo.
The other way would be p2w and no one wants something like MR or OW to be p2w.
Accept the fact, you cant have it all like in Real Life and they can take it away when they want then fomo doesnt affect you anymore.
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