Rocket is crap

[Gisborne]

Worst healing and his guns damage, falloff and speed is stupid low and slow. I just feel useless as a healer using him, his heals are only effective against people not taking dmg, his gun is an absolute mess... like even if you can hit people with it, it hits for peanuts. just doesn't feel good at all, ammo is shared with healing balls, and when you do nothing but heal ball spam if can barely keep people alive vs any sort of competent team.

[Dio]

Originally posted by Vinnolo:

one of the best soloQ healers, because you can escape any diver with ease, healing is easy to do and rocket actually shreds tanks if the situation allows it, the revive is one of the strongest skills in the game but his ult is one of the worst from all strategists, cant have everything i guess, but atleast its more interesting than "making your team unkillable for x seconds", if you have a punisher in your team, he can easily carry

90% of rocket players will not do anything you listed

[Jayden2010]

rocket's guns are very anti-tank, 16 damage per shot, 45 in a mag, that's 720 damage if you land all your shots. Shooting a tank at 5-7 meter distance works very well to take pressure off your team.

[Kitt 🌟 Stargazer]

Originally posted by Jayden2010:

rocket's guns are very anti-tank, 16 damage per shot, 45 in a mag, that's 720 damage if you land all your shots. Shooting a tank at 5-7 meter distance works very well to take pressure off your team.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=63k02Xdgme8
I made a little demonstration video on how Rocket's guns work on a Hulk. Yeah, at close range you can rip Hulk to pieces with his mingun.

Tanks are nice, slow and big. Easy targets at close range too.

[Teddy Roosevelt]

Originally posted by Queen Yuu The Reclusive:

Apparently this is a hot take.

Yes, Rocket is one of the worst healers, beaten only by Adam.

When a healer is literally played as little more than a healbot with no other activity they need to engage it - AKA primary fire at the LEAST - they are poorly designed and need to be reviewed.

Is your armor station revive placed? Welp, that's basically it! Until you have ult or need to replace the station, you're now delegated to 'Just press Right-click because your damage is pointless'.

He's a very interesting character that could have a far more interesting gameplay loop, but people have delegated him to just press Right-click.

wat? Hes in the top 33% of most picked characters in competitive and has a winrate in the top 20% according to the marvel rivals stats here https://www.marvelrivals.com/heroes_data/ Perhaps you didnt understand as much as you think you did? also you can totally melt tanks up close because close up rockets gun does the same damage output as the punishers turret at mid range.

I mean believe what you want. Its your rank that suffers.

[Teddy Roosevelt]

Originally posted by Dio:

Originally posted by Vinnolo:

one of the best soloQ healers, because you can escape any diver with ease, healing is easy to do and rocket actually shreds tanks if the situation allows it, the revive is one of the strongest skills in the game but his ult is one of the worst from all strategists, cant have everything i guess, but atleast its more interesting than "making your team unkillable for x seconds", if you have a punisher in your team, he can easily carry

90% of rocket players will not do anything you listed

Then its the players that are bad, not the character. Sounds like a skill issue doesnt it?

[Hart]

Originally posted by Dio:

Originally posted by Addex78:

While his damage is quite low his healing can be absolutely insane.

I regularly have 20-30k healing games

you can pull off the same healing with cloak and dagger and have a better ult

Rocket can specifically raise anyone if you time your B.R.B correctly. There are trade offs, but his ult isn't as bad as people think, it can turn the tide if you've got enough of your team clumped at objective. He has the longest heal range and can blindly heal players from the other side of the map. I don't know how many times I've kept overextended team mates alive while also defending on point. He is also the only support can can regularly heal flyers and flankers without cooldowns. He can melt anyone at close range. True, his gun does drop off at distance, but at close range everyone should be careful, especially if he is landing head shots. This makes him very pesky when two tanks are clashing.

Not saying he is the best, but most jobs are situational.

[Jack]

Rocket is hard to kill, his revive can prevent staggering, his ult recharges very fast. His heal is for your dps and back divers, it's bad for tanks.

[SolutionS]

Rocket OP

[Kitt 🌟 Stargazer]

Rocket's skill floor is low, but I like how his skill ceiling is relatively high. Getting the DPS aspect out of him is an actual challenge without dying. I think that's what makes him actually fun to play as.

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3433486658

[76561199816511545]

Originally posted by Gisborne:

Originally posted by HighLanderPony:

Skissue

reported, but explain, ive never seen anyone use him to great effect unless on a team stomping the enemy so his kit is not noticed. but again reported.

What do you mean he has the highest healer win rate.

[Khanromi]

And the conversation goes ever 'round, again and again...

[Princz]

Originally posted by Khanromi:

And the conversation goes ever 'round, again and again...

Right? This is getting quite boring tbh

[RawwkinGrimmie64]

Originally posted by EmperorVolo:

I'll explain it.

I think the issue is people of lower intelligence can't comprehend the longer term value a Rocket has over another healer with INSTANT feedback on value.

A Rocket with a team with greater cohesion and balling potential aka GROUPING. Far exceeds ANY other healer. The ONLY other healer with the same potential is Invisible Woman or Sue Storm. However she has a range limit Rocket does not. This is because Rocket can especially in tight environment can hit the same target say a Tank 3 times with 1 ORB. Sue Storm can hit MULTIPLE targets TWICE. Since has piercing and her heals return to her. Even with this being known SHE does not out heal rocket just almost.

The greater potential here is Rockets ability to heal an ENTIRE team at the same time this is in many way like having an ULT up all the time. The same potential healing which is about 4-5 ORBs can heal someone to FULL life. 4-5 ORBS is about a little over a second or two.

The issue here is if you are hard focused you can die in a second.

This gives the impression due to IMMEDIATE feedback that it is not working. When more likely you didn't have the SKILL or AWARENESS to realize other people need healing and that you should have grabbed cover.

Then on top of that the BRB is over looked but it BY ITSELF wins fights before any healing. The potential to return a DPS or the OTHER HEALER immediately back into the fight is HUGE.

This problem is a evolutionary issue with human beings and contributes to this issue. A lower IQ reduces the ability to have a stronger executive function so the brain in question relies on instant gratification as a evolutionary trait to identify what is helpful.

This contributes to that persons lack of comprehension in many things cause they can not think in longer terms or are able to put together reasoning for how something is.

Source: https://scholar.harvard.edu/sites/scholar.harvard.edu/files/laibson/files/instantaneous_gratification.pdf?utm_source=chatgpt.com

So the flaw isn't with the character it's with the low IQ many people have and the immediate need for feedback in order to feel like something is working or not. It's perception flaw cause this requires you to have the intelligence required to not think in immediates or instant gratification or feedback.

Can Rocket suck? Yes. Just like any other healer. Rocket takes skill to be at the upper levels. Can he fall behind in healing? Yes. Just like any other healer. Does he have the most cohesive healing potential? Yes and that is all there is too it. He has a longer term potential. Most of these other healers are getting really high stats by healing potentially ONE target at times. Keep that in mind ONE target is providing their stats. Rockets stats if he's good is from keeping MULTIPLE targets up at the SAME time.

The difference this makes in team fights is HUGE. This is why he has the HIGHEST win rate of all healers currently.

Holy flarking hell, dude. Just tell the guy to look up some advanced guides. An entire essay, complete with source links, was not necessary to tell OP that they are using the character inefficiently.

The constant swing back to "you have a low IQ" is also incredibly insulting and has no merit whatsoever. Learn how to be helpful without insulting people, will ya?

[Dio]

rocket is good he just attracts bot players

[Krusti3]

Originally posted by Addex78:

While his damage is quite low his healing can be absolutely insane.

I regularly have 20-30k healing games

That's quite an average amount of healing, at the trade off of damage. Rocket players for the most part don't do any damage. While just about every other healer will perform as good or better at healing and substantially out-damage them.

You only See rocket become good, when the players using him are High diamond and double that damage to 50-60k.