Can We Nerf Spider-Man's and Black Panther's Movement?

[jesl95]

I don't care if they can't one-piece combo a functional team. Give them a rework, give them a boost to their damage, I don't care, but NERF their movement please. Can't even aim at the characters. At least Psylocke is on the ground and walking to deal most of her damage. Spider-Man swings at mach speed making it near impossible to finish him and BP just straight up disappears when dashing multiple times. They're assassins, I get it, but they've been over-tuned in the movement department.

[jesl95]

Publicado originalmente por Mochan:

Skill issue if you can't hit Spiderman or TChalla. Just use Dagger if you can't aim, or slum it with Namor, that's what I do. Namor takes care of them easy.

Spidey and Tchalla are fine. To be honest I find them strong dive heroes, but they can be countered so it's not an issue. With all the stun and CC abilities there are tons of ways to just crusht hem if they're not careful, and again failing that you can just Namor cheese them.

Namor is an anti-dive DPS who really doesn't need to aim at them. Of course, if you can hit your shots, then it's better, but his turrets are doing all the work.

They're NOT fine. They're not just strong divers; they're the best divers right after Psylocke. BP second, then Spidey. They have too much mobility. The only stun that would be effective against them is Mantis since she can just shoot it at the ground and get a lucky hit.

[jesl95]

Publicado originalmente por Harlegar:

Publicado originalmente por jesl95:

I don't care if they can't one-piece combo a functional team. Give them a rework, give them a boost to their damage, I don't care, but NERF their movement please. Can't even aim at the characters. At least Psylocke is on the ground and walking to deal most of her damage. Spider-Man swings at mach speed making it near impossible to finish him and BP just straight up disappears when dashing multiple times. They're assassins, I get it, but they've been over-tuned in the movement department.

To be fair, Spider man is the hardest character in the whole game to understand and even remotely use decently/efficiently, he's a glass cannon that can be easily shot down if you're paying attention to your back line or just paying attention to the air in general.

I'm going to say Loki is the hardest is the hardest character in the game. Not just from having to know how to play everyone, but knowing when and who's ult to use. Then there's his clone management and spatial awareness and positioning to effectively play him. One good thing about this game I like is the fact that everyone has low skill a floor to even get good results and only a handful of characters have a somewhat high skill ceiling. I say somewhat because once you get the gist of the game and how to position, pressure, and team-build, you can master any character in no time. Everything else boils down to how good the individual is mechanically. So, I will have to agree Spidey is ONE of the hardest to master compared to how hard is to master other heroes, but that mastery still doesn't take a lot of effort.

[jesl95]

Publicado originalmente por doofus0510:

he's not overtuned, he's lore accurate

Lol. If that's the case, Magneto, Strange, and Scarlet would just auto-win.

[doofus0510]

Publicado originalmente por jesl95:

Publicado originalmente por doofus0510:

he's not overtuned, he's lore accurate

Lol. If that's the case, Magneto, Strange, and Scarlet would just auto-win.

your forgetting squirrel girl

[Nosgoth]

Bro sorry but you are just bad , try it, so hard to play with him.

[UsosDomain]

So let me get this straight- a character with barely any damage, a horrible combo kit, who's extremely squishy (they are the only character uncapable of being overhealed), needs a nerf on the only thing that makes them a good character?

[UsosDomain]

Publicado originalmente por jesl95:

Publicado originalmente por Harlegar:

To be fair, Spider man is the hardest character in the whole game to understand and even remotely use decently/efficiently, he's a glass cannon that can be easily shot down if you're paying attention to your back line or just paying attention to the air in general.

I'm going to say Loki is the hardest is the hardest character in the game. Not just from having to know how to play everyone, but knowing when and who's ult to use. Then there's his clone management and spatial awareness and positioning to effectively play him. One good thing about this game I like is the fact that everyone has low skill a floor to even get good results and only a handful of characters have a somewhat high skill ceiling. I say somewhat because once you get the gist of the game and how to position, pressure, and team-build, you can master any character in no time. Everything else boils down to how good the individual is mechanically. So, I will have to agree Spidey is ONE of the hardest to master compared to how hard is to master other heroes, but that mastery still doesn't take a lot of effort.

Spider-Man is considered the most difficult character to learn in Marvel Rivals.

[Shamalamadingdang]

The elitism in this game stops people from just picking Scarlet Witch to deal with Spiderman because she's a "noob character for aimlets." The devs are trolls, I'm convinced. They made the easiest character in the game the hard counter to the most difficult character in the game. Spidey can't dive her (she'll just disappear) and he can't out maneuver her (she locks on). If you're really being abused by a good spidey, swallow your pride and pick Wanda.

[Ginzo Force]

Publicado originalmente por Shamalamadingdang:

The elitism in this game stops people from just picking Scarlet Witch to deal with Spiderman because she's a "noob character for aimlets." The devs are trolls, I'm convinced. They made the easiest character in the game the hard counter to the most difficult character in the game. Spidey can't dive her (she'll just disappear) and he can't out maneuver her (she locks on). If you're really being abused by a good spidey, swallow your pride and pick Wanda.

100 percent true, I'm a Scarlet main and my win rate is like 56% in ranked 64% overall, she has the best movement tech in the game, all of her abilities are useful

To tell the truth I tried some black panther in qp last night and he just isn't as good of an ambusher as Scarlet, melee is just bad overall

Scarlet is a diver and ambusher that counters divers def my favorite char

If anything BP and spooder should be buffed, but then again I no longer play characters that are weak to dive and I'm used to dominating them now

[Mikedot]

No. They need that movement to be viable.

[FAT WANZER]

Publicado originalmente por Shamalamadingdang:

The elitism in this game stops people from just picking Scarlet Witch to deal with Spiderman because she's a "noob character for aimlets." The devs are trolls, I'm convinced. They made the easiest character in the game the hard counter to the most difficult character in the game. Spidey can't dive her (she'll just disappear) and he can't out maneuver her (she locks on). If you're really being abused by a good spidey, swallow your pride and pick Wanda.

just pick namor lol the squid aimbot is good they can hit a full speed swinging spiderman lol

[Nydas]

Publicado originalmente por Harlegar:

To be fair, Spider man is the hardest character in the whole game to understand and even remotely use decently/efficiently, he's a glass cannon that can be easily shot down if you're paying attention to your back line or just paying attention to the air in general.

Hes really not. Im so tired of hearing how "hard" spiderman is. hes not. People only said that because it takes more than 2 games to learn his web swinging. Once you get used to it though, Spidermans kit is about as brain dead as Starlords. His hit boxes are so forgiving everything he has hits even if hes aiming half a screen away.

Why do you think hes popping up in more and more games? Because, turns out, hes not actually that hard.

[doofus0510]

Publicado originalmente por Nydas:

Publicado originalmente por Harlegar:

To be fair, Spider man is the hardest character in the whole game to understand and even remotely use decently/efficiently, he's a glass cannon that can be easily shot down if you're paying attention to your back line or just paying attention to the air in general.

Hes really not. Im so tired of hearing how "hard" spiderman is. hes not. People only said that because it takes more than 2 games to learn his web swinging. Once you get used to it though, Spidermans kit is about as brain dead as Starlords. His hit boxes are so forgiving everything he has hits even if hes aiming half a screen away.

Why do you think hes popping up in more and more games? Because, turns out, hes not actually that hard.

it's more than swinging, your forgetting b-hops

[OMEGA]

the most situational heroes in the game now need a nerf so they are unusable?

[Arthur Morrigan]

No, the movement is what makes them fun to play. You people have such terrible ideas.