Modders already found a way to use mods again 😂

[Mister Father]

That took, what... less than 24 hours lmao?



Discuss.

[Borko]

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No, but the system won't see the difference, it won't see Jarvis_Balls.mp4, It'll just see modified files and assume cheating.

With the newest method, it won't detect anything.

Says who? Someone too scared to test it who also says "use at your own risk"?

[Watchmaker]

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just as they are multi billion dollar company, they sure aint a charity, why would they keep an unprofitable game alive, and they certainly wont keep a game alive for free just because modders want to play it with their mods

Mods don't make it unprofitable though lmfao.
Mods exist for TF2. They still make absolute bank on crates. The effect on revenue is so minuscule they don't care. Valve could make mods impossible but they don't bother because there's no point.
There are many games like it that have purchasable cosmetics but also allow mods because it really doesn't do anything negative.

Netease is just greedy and anti-mod, being a China-based company. China is against modding as a whole, because they see it as some perversion of their original work. The way I heard it, they see it as if you were to present some project you worked on to your boss, and he said "yeah... this is great and all but I can make it better", and then changed it to suit himself.

There is another game made by chinese developers called Gunfire Reborn. People desperately want to mod it. There isn't even cosmetics in the game, nothing to purchase besides DLC that adds new weapons and characters. People just want to give different looks to the characters they have.
But they won't allow it. They're anti-mod. If you mention modding at all in their official Discord, they will instantly and permanently ban you with no warning and then block you so you can't make an appeal.

Chinese (and also Japanese) devs are so against mods they are fully willing to spend tons of resources to block them even though it has no real negative impact. Capcom is doing the same thing. It has nothing to do with monetization or it impacting them negatively, they just personally hate them.

It's called cause and effect, no skin purchases = no game.
Modding = no reason to do a skin purchase = common sense.

[Borko]

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Mods don't make it unprofitable though lmfao.
Mods exist for TF2. They still make absolute bank on crates. The effect on revenue is so minuscule they don't care. Valve could make mods impossible but they don't bother because there's no point.
There are many games like it that have purchasable cosmetics but also allow mods because it really doesn't do anything negative.

Netease is just greedy and anti-mod, being a China-based company. China is against modding as a whole, because they see it as some perversion of their original work. The way I heard it, they see it as if you were to present some project you worked on to your boss, and he said "yeah... this is great and all but I can make it better", and then changed it to suit himself.

There is another game made by chinese developers called Gunfire Reborn. People desperately want to mod it. There isn't even cosmetics in the game, nothing to purchase besides DLC that adds new weapons and characters. People just want to give different looks to the characters they have.
But they won't allow it. They're anti-mod. If you mention modding at all in their official Discord, they will instantly and permanently ban you with no warning and then block you so you can't make an appeal.

Chinese (and also Japanese) devs are so against mods they are fully willing to spend tons of resources to block them even though it has no real negative impact. Capcom is doing the same thing. It has nothing to do with monetization or it impacting them negatively, they just personally hate them.

It's called cause and effect, no skin purchases = no game.
Modding = no reason to do a skin purchase = common sense.

You literally read nothing that I typed.
Mods do not effect revenue. That's why games like TF2 don't care. If it effected their revenue, they would block, obviously. But it doesn't, so they don't.

[Gubtubus Webble]

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why are people cheating in this game anyway? what is the point.
I only play vs bots, so i don't see any of this nonsense, but still the question is what is the reason for cheating, its a freaking pvp game, it ain't that serious.

Mods aren't cheating. You clearly don't know what you're talking about

[Mister Father]

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It's called cause and effect, no skin purchases = no game.
Modding = no reason to do a skin purchase = common sense.

You literally read nothing that I typed.
Mods do not effect revenue. That's why games like TF2 don't care. If it effected their revenue, they would block, obviously. But it doesn't, so they don't.

I literally decided not to buy the battle pass, because there are skin mods.

Please stop posting.

[Borko]

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You literally read nothing that I typed.
Mods do not effect revenue. That's why games like TF2 don't care. If it effected their revenue, they would block, obviously. But it doesn't, so they don't.

I literally decided not to buy the battle pass, because there are skin mods.

Please stop posting.

No you didn't.

And it still doesn't matter, it doesn't effect them at all. You didn't buy the battlepass? Okay.
Thousands of other people did.

[Crunchy[Daz]]

LOL you think using skin mods is sticking it to them in anyway? Let me guess, you still think that they disabled modding on purpose right? That its not a normal thing that happens to many games that are updated? Here's the big hint as to tell if they did it or not....... if they didn't want you to use mods, you wouldn't be using them.

Try living in the real world and not this fantasy world you've created for yourself.

[Borko]

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LOL you think using skin mods is sticking it to them in anyway? Let me guess, you still think that they disabled modding on purpose right? That its not a normal thing that happens to many games that are updated? Here's the big hint as to tell if they did it or not....... if they didn't want you to use mods, you wouldn't be using them.

Try living in the real world and not this fantasy world you've created for yourself.

I mean... the change in question is asset checking, it checks if anything was modified. I don't know why they would put that in for any reason other than stopping mods. They have also stated that they are against them and will work to ensure they are not possible.

[Oodanna]

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No you didn't.

And it still doesn't matter, it doesn't effect them at all. You didn't buy the battlepass? Okay.
Thousands of other people did.

the way people speak about modding not affecting anything, netease isnt a charity, they want every single dime they can suck out of the players (at least they provide quality that makes you want to buy), if you love your precious mods, go play a game that allows them, you arent obligated to play marvel rivals. (yes its a fun game, but going against the tos you should expect to be punished or for them to patch things.)

[stuck in gold in Jerkmate ranked]

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I mean, calling people mentally ill while you insist on violating ToS just to look at pixelated private parts is kind of... entirely ironic.

Go back to reddit dude, no one likes you

your using the nude mods aren't you?

[(´･‿･`)]

Welcome back Captain Whatsapp

[mna99]

Some people get system instability from certain particle effects or models/animations being on screen. Being able to mod that stuff out (since Netease won't fix every case) would be really nice.

[Kuzenbo]

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why are people cheating in this game anyway? what is the point.
I only play vs bots, so i don't see any of this nonsense, but still the question is what is the reason for cheating, its a freaking pvp game, it ain't that serious.

You think turning hulk into shrek for the LULZ or adding nude mods is cheating?

Oh right it was because i changed the voice line from "Maximum pulse" for iron mans ult to "Jarvis remove his balls" wasnt it? 100% cheating

Seriously you need a mental health check bud.

It's simply not allowed because the people who created the product say it isnt. You hold no authority over the decisions made by netease.

If i gave you a piece of art, that i made, do you think my feelings would be hurt if you drew something over it?

[Roland's 2nd]

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LOL you think using skin mods is sticking it to them in anyway? Let me guess, you still think that they disabled modding on purpose right? That its not a normal thing that happens to many games that are updated? Here's the big hint as to tell if they did it or not....... if they didn't want you to use mods, you wouldn't be using them.

Try living in the real world and not this fantasy world you've created for yourself.

I mean... the change in question is asset checking, it checks if anything was modified. I don't know why they would put that in for any reason other than stopping mods.

.......Perhaps so people don't make the walls transparent? Or modify characters so that you can see where they are across the map?

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why are people cheating in this game anyway? what is the point.
I only play vs bots, so i don't see any of this nonsense, but still the question is what is the reason for cheating, its a freaking pvp game, it ain't that serious.

Mods aren't cheating. You clearly don't know what you're talking about

Mods open the door for cheating; you can MODIFY character models to make them visible behind cover and such, or just make everyone you are not playing just a hitbox so you never miss.

World Of Tanks had modded skins that highlighted weakpoints on vehicles, making them easier to see and hit; one could easily do the same here.

All of that is cheating.
You are asking the door to be opened for cheating.
No one gives a ♥♥♥♥ if you won't do it, the fact that it's possible means that someone will. That alone is enough reason to ban mods. Period.
There is no good argument for mods because of this fact.

[Roland's 2nd]

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I mean, calling people mentally ill while you insist on violating ToS just to look at pixelated private parts is kind of... entirely ironic.

If the ToS said you weren't allowed to play the game left handed would you be for that?
You would just blindly defend anything that's in the ToS?

It doesn't matter if you agree with the ToS or not. It is the contract you abide by in order to play the game and maintain an account in the game. If you do not agree or do not wish to abide by the contract, you should play a different game, or face the repercussions, such as being permanently banned.

In other words, if the ToS said I couldn't use my left hand to play the game, and it had a way to detect whether or not I was, I would play a different game; or make a clone of the game that does not have such a restriction.

And for the record, if Netease really wanted to, they could sue skin modders for damages.
As someone who has received multiple DMCA claims from Nintendo for my mod work (as well as one from Criterion for a Burnout mod) I can tell you there's some lines that are foolish to keep crossing. Just walk away.