only one support

[Sir_Box]

had to play a game as the only support since all the other random people wanted to play DPS only to be bullied and harassed because i wasn't doing enough healing. it was so constant i had to leave. such ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥

[DUCKIN AROUND]

When that happens, get off support. Bad teams don't deserve it if they're going to throw either way. If one of them switches to support and does better, though, that's when you really gotta find some way to untilt yourself and step away from the game for an hour or so.

[Filip]

exactly theres no way you can do good with one supp in soloq.. just get off support show them they are braindead ♥♥♥♥♥ who dont deserve the win.. they might swap to support then lol

[ThatGuyKhi]

Curious though, who is the "best" solo supp in these situations? Mantis right?

[Geozilla]

Originally posted by ThatGuyKhi:

Curious though, who is the "best" solo supp in these situations? Mantis right?

Depends on the mode and players. If it's dom then Luna or Mantis will work cause they're grouped up, but on convey then C&D or Warlock since your team is on the move and scattered. This all assumes your team wants to stay alive and not hunt for kills.

[thenameless]

first Time playing a MMO with Holy Trinity?
Its always the Healers fault.^^

[Gpuna]

Usually when going solo healer, I just go raccoon. No burst heals, but very consistent aoe heal uptime. Gets a res for the ones you can't heal and lets you escape pretty easily from the ones jumping the only strategist

It's still a pain trying to go against your average 2 healers squad

[H 4 Z E]

Dw lots of people playing this game lack gray matter.
just lost a game where on first point i solo killed both healers and 1 dps, and they still lost the point 5v3. Like bro, how do you do this?

Just try to ignore it and move on.

[Erook D Weeb]

If its a quick play game you had that in, it doesn't matter.
If it was in competitive, You just gotta get out of bronze and silver, in high gold and above this doesn't really happen.
And if it happened in High Gold + then that's a throwaway game, go dps as well and practice a hero or something, unfortunate but true.

[JG2thend]

you can solo heal a good team but not a team that cant use corners or heal packs or stick together.

[Oodanna]

the first thing you should always do with these games is to turn of voice chat, and just do whatever you can, you cant heal through walls, sometimes people will body block your heals, and some are just spidermen web slinging at 200 mph while constantly pinging for heals when youre idk, luna or loki

[Ruke (Soreasan)]

Honestly, I feel like There's not really a true 'all in one' healer, but i'd say.

5 dps / Flighty dps: Mantis feels best, self heals and 200 hp / 8s hots. She can heal 3 dps but struggles with sustained tank healing. But she's much more forgiving than luna to flyers like Iron man / storm / iron fist / Winter soldier / starlord.

2 Tank / 3 dps / 1 healer: Luna / Jeff kinda work. The tanks just gobble up healings, and if it's a metal rank, you might need to be cautious. Despite a lot of metal ranks flaming for heals at this rank, statistics only showed like a 40% wr on games i healbotted the 58k dmg taken 2k dmg done Venom/Captain Bronzeerica alking w+m1 into 5 people games.

Rocket is weird, even he and adam along with Mantis have 53-55% winrates in gm, but they also have bans, and i could see their mains getting the winrate from mastering the off picks while the mantis/luna players were likely suboptimal/ thrown off whack vs a Rocket/Adam/Loki main.

I played a couple games and i think Rocket has fine spammable self heals and a super annoyingly small hitbox. But he both does the least damage and gets least kills and least deaths in gm.

He only does like 60 hp/s vs the 120-180 hp/s of other healers and doesn't do damage either, but he has a small hitbox, 190 dps up close for shredding groot walls / tanks / divers, 2 jetpacks for self peeling, spammable self heals when running away or into a target.

Jeff seems weird, low gm winrate (huge critbox and one shotable), but for lower lobbies, he has self peels that low ranks can't aim well, he does the best raw healing (150 hp/s with forgiving aim), and his ult can get 5 kills in metal ranks, and he can reload anim cancel by diving or bubbling 60% of the way through reloading to reload/heal faster.

But he gets two shot by skilled Helas/Hawkeyes/Punishers extremely too well. Low ranks can't always aim and even plats struggle with the fin. But his face is one giant critbox to Hela/Hawkeye and while his interupted combat healing is actually great (100 hp x 6 is actually WAY better than Mantis/Luna's 100 hp per 8 seconds self healing).

it's kinda offset that he can be headshot killed in that brief window bubbling to self heal. Sometimes shifting to dive away with the tiny hitbox works fine.

Overall, the best healer is the one you do best with. You can check career stats. Cloak and dagger also pads out good numbers as a flex pick and often does high raw numbers like Moira, But a lot of it is 'tickle dmg / tickle healing'. Cloak and dagger does like 30 dps + 40 aoe healing / 80 hp/s single target (combined) with auto aim.

So they can easily pad 90% accuracy and good numbers. But they have the slowest time to kill in game BY FAR but it's extreme auto aim. Like 8 seconds to kill at 30-75 dps vs 100-190 dps.

Overall, i'd suggest

Solo que: If good at mantis, good solo winrate + good solo heals + good dps heals. Bad at healbotting tanks / heavy dmg takers /feeders.

Versatile: Luna, 120 dps/hps hitscan who can do great as a solo healer in a backline. (unless double dove, then gg).

Worth watching: Despite not #1 play, Loki/Adam /Rocket are keeping 53% gm inrates, though perhaps with hero bans to Mantis/Luna.

No idea if Adam is played for Mantis Adam / Starlord, i'd imagine Loki is dependent on Hela being Meta in gm though. The revive passive is very strong and hela is very meta when unbanned.

[Kitt 🌟 Stargazer]

Originally posted by Sir_Box:

other random people

There's your problem unfortunately...

Random people are just going to be all over the place. It just takes one or two bad apples usually to ruin an entire match for a team. The more bad players you get, the harder you have to work in order to succeed.

[Ruke (Soreasan)]

I still kinda agree that no healer can do it all.

Luna Snow / Jeff / Mantis are all good at raw numbers and Cloak does good aoe heals.

Problem is, if you're playing with 5 dps or 1 strategist, you probably have Thor + Captain America + Groot + Storm + Ironman Era teams as well. Healbotting didn't even lead to better winrates healbotting Luna/jeff vs letting feeders die (40% wr vs 55%-60% wr Mantis healing all and dpsing.)

People will flame you if you pick a mantis (meta) to dps heal to win the game vs healbotting them 200 hp a second. But.. People in overwatch talk about ult economy for 50% full hp ults. Ults in marvel rivals are at least as strong as 2 Sigma ults.

Psylock's /Hela's ult alone is stronger than a Nanoblade + Zen ult. And Luna snow provides 12s of invulnerability and i think mantis still heals like 150 hp/s while speedboosting and still being able to dps. / Chase people down to kill secure.

Mantis, despite being a support, also has pretty fair kill potential for 1 flanker if you land the sleep imho. Luna still is very good, but the icicle ball is much more unreliable on ziplining Spider men and iron fists than venoms and thors imho. And i feel like her 3 hit barrage vs 1-2 taps feels good to play, but im not sure if it breaks sleep/freeze sooner or later than Mantis's chunky bolts.

Either way, if your team is going 5 dps. You're usually pushed to play much more in the backline and pray to god the enemy team doesn't play 3 divers and harass you all game while the dps flame you every death/dive.

[SoloQ]

When people get needy with the heals while solo healing I go play the character I want instead. It's what everyone else is doing, and I want to be cool, right?