The patch notes are horrible..

[Princz]

nuff said.. just look at the Hela "nerf", was that supposed to be a joke?



I was looking forward to some meaningful changes.. maybe small reworks.. oh silly me

[Borko]

Yeah... extremely disappointed.
They took some inspiration from the Overwatch balance team I guess.

[Gratch]

" just look at the Hela "nerf", was that supposed to be a joke?"
so maybe you don't understand what is going on, they are making Small adjustments rather than the Large adjustments that threw ow2 into a death spiral.

[Kitt 🌟 Stargazer]

People failed to convince them that anything more significant was needed is all. You can suggest and and ask for changes all you want, but they're also allowed to say "no, I don't agree with that and will not make those types of changes either".

[Borko]

Publicado originalmente por Kitt 🌟 Stargazer:

People failed to convince them that anything more significant was needed is all. You can suggest and and ask for changes all you want, but they're also allowed to say "no, I don't agree with that and will not make those types of changes either".

They're also allowed to be terrible at their job and cause people to leave because they're sick of fighting the same character LITERALLY every match.

[Gratch]

Publicado originalmente por Borko:

They're also allowed to be terrible at their job and cause people to leave because they're sick of fighting the same character LITERALLY every match.

Ever though about how to counter those characters?

[Kitt 🌟 Stargazer]

Publicado originalmente por Borko:

Publicado originalmente por Kitt 🌟 Stargazer:

People failed to convince them that anything more significant was needed is all. You can suggest and and ask for changes all you want, but they're also allowed to say "no, I don't agree with that and will not make those types of changes either".

They're also allowed to be terrible at their job and cause people to leave because they're sick of fighting the same character LITERALLY every match.

That's fine, maybe they want it to be that way, have you considered that by chance?
It's the benefit of being the creater and owner of something. That thing belongs to you, and you get to choose what you do with it.

The only thing you have to worry about is it making money, which this game is clearly not having an issue with, at least right now. Since this is also a product to be sold to others.

I mean, if you really have an issue with it. You can create your own dev team and create what you want at any given time. Show them how it's done. If you cannot, maybe you can find someone else who does agree with you and can perhaps?

[Longathan Johnathan]

yeah agree hela should be nerfed down to 100 health and have a -90 damage season bonus
:)

[Princz]

Publicado originalmente por Kitt 🌟 Stargazer:

People failed to convince them that anything more significant was needed is all. You can suggest and and ask for changes all you want, but they're also allowed to say "no, I don't agree with that and will not make those types of changes either".

The problem with that is i cant find their reasioning. They said themself that Hela was too strong..

Okay..

So -25hp is the best they can come up with?

[Borko]

She also has no fall-off. They could have given her fall-off. They could have done ANYTHING.
They opted for nothing at all.

So now we get like what, 60 days of her being the strongest character in the game again?

[Kyo Tanaka]

Publicado originalmente por Princz:

Publicado originalmente por Kitt 🌟 Stargazer:

People failed to convince them that anything more significant was needed is all. You can suggest and and ask for changes all you want, but they're also allowed to say "no, I don't agree with that and will not make those types of changes either".

The problem with that is i cant find their reasioning. They said themself that Hela was too strong..

Okay..

So -25hp is the best they can come up with?

-5% to seasonal bonus too, same as Hawkeye. You'd see this if you'd scroll down to Team Up section.

Whether that actually means anything remains to be seen

[Princz]

Publicado originalmente por Gratch:

" just look at the Hela "nerf", was that supposed to be a joke?"
so maybe you don't understand what is going on, they are making Small adjustments rather than the Large adjustments that threw ow2 into a death spiral.

Okay, i can sort of accept that. However its still to little. I mean, what are they gonna do next season? Decrease it by an another 25HP? I liked the “everyone is kinda overpowered” mentality at launch better. This “nerf but only a little” method is.. dunno just seems boring and bad.

[Borko]

Publicado originalmente por Kyo Tanaka:

Publicado originalmente por Princz:

The problem with that is i cant find their reasioning. They said themself that Hela was too strong..

Okay..

So -25hp is the best they can come up with?

-5% to seasonal bonus too, same as Hawkeye. You'd see this if you'd scroll down to Team Up section.

Whether that actually means anything remains to be seen

Still nothing. Still the absolute least they could have possibly done, and it will make absolutely 0 difference whatsoever.

[Princz]

Publicado originalmente por Longathan Johnathan:

yeah agree hela should be nerfed down to 100 health and have a -90 damage season bonus
:)

Thanks for the input John.

[Kitt 🌟 Stargazer]

Publicado originalmente por Princz:

Publicado originalmente por Kitt 🌟 Stargazer:

People failed to convince them that anything more significant was needed is all. You can suggest and and ask for changes all you want, but they're also allowed to say "no, I don't agree with that and will not make those types of changes either".

The problem with that is i cant find their reasioning. They said themself that Hela was too strong..

Okay..

So -25hp is the best they can come up with?

Smarter to make small changes, and if they have to do more they'll do more later. This is a good way to make adjustments and not accidentally over do it and not accidentally nerf them directly into the ground.

Nerfs and Buffs also will indirectly nerf and buff other characters. This is most notable with characters that were designed to specifically counter other characters.

You can't just rush things, you have to actually be careful other wise you could potentially make everything worse.

There's also one more thing people are forgetting. Have you ever considered that they actually want her to be powerful by chance? That is also a decision they are allowed to make.

You have to account the season buffs too, which will be going away too ( I don't like these at all honestly... These just over complicates things IMO ), which will also effect everyone losing them.

[Borko]

These are nothing changes, pretty much all of them. They're weak, and I can't see myself playing through 2 entire MONTHS of the exact same boring annoying things I've put up with during season 0.

Season 1 will be almost exactly the same as season 0.
Hela every single match destroying everyone and being banned in every game of comp from Diamond up.
Many characters unplayable because Hela counters them so hard (Iron Man)
Luna Snow and Mantis every match taking turns ulting to make their team immortal.
Loki being the god of everything and having no weaknesses.
Rocket being the worst support in the game.
Iron Fist obliterating anyone in the backline and also blocking literally EVERYTHING in the game just by using right click.

2 months of all this.
Literally worse balance team than Overwatch, and that's a really hard thing to do.