The patch notes are horrible..

[Princz]

nuff said.. just look at the Hela "nerf", was that supposed to be a joke?



I was looking forward to some meaningful changes.. maybe small reworks.. oh silly me

[NeonRed]

Originally posted by Princz:

I 100% agree with you on that but still.. 25hp in this game is nothing bro.

Hp changes do actually matter, but it one of those subtle things you aren't going to dramatically notice. Hela really had no business being 275 with her shift escape that also give invincibility.

The change is good, but they should've also made it where if you deplete that crazy 1000hp pool ult she actually dies. Season bonus for damage messes with too much and devs honestly need to stop that stuff.

[Zakor]

Some changes makes zero sense ngl, like the black panther nerf, magneto teamup buff, wanda buff, dude....

[Zakor]

Originally posted by NeonRed:

Originally posted by Princz:

I 100% agree with you on that but still.. 25hp in this game is nothing bro.

Hp changes do actually matter, but it one of those subtle things you aren't going to dramatically notice. Hela really had no business being 275 with her shift escape that also give invincibility.

The change is good, but they should've also made it where if you deplete that crazy 1000hp pool ult she actually dies. Season bonus for damage messes with too much and devs honestly need to stop that stuff.

or at least make those only work with the whole teamup in play

[HaveHimExecutedASAP]

I actually didn't notice that Helas ultimate wasn't touched and thats actually insane, she definitely needed an ultimate nerf.

[Pirate Beard]

Originally posted by Docteur LaChatte:

Originally posted by Pirate Beard:

I don't play as either of those lol. Heroes in all classes got buffs and nerfs, very fair amount of changes especially considering this is the zeroth season. People just love being doom and gloom over everything

I see that, so now on can you give me a clear respond on why (exemple) VENOM got a buff ?

does he need it ?

i can see every role got a nerf and a buff, but im more implicated in the "Hero" then the role they do
having a S+ tier Hero like Venom got buff doesnt seem too bother you and im quite curious on why you think is a good patchnote ?
( beside the " Well all role got nerf and buff " look the detail shall we and respond too me im curious)

Venom has genuinely not been good this whole season. He just tickles enemies unless you’re able to consistently get headshots, and he’s nearly stationary when he’s attacking, giving the enemy team ample time to shoot him. He’s like a mosquito with a dull proboscis with possibly the worst ult of any tank character. His only saving grace has been his ability to survive running away

He’s probably really useful for diving a solo support, but the game has been out for a month now and people have learned to turn around and help the person keeping you alive on any somewhat decent team. Are there people that get great value out of him? Yes, those exist for every character. But he’s underperforming compared to every other tank and needs a buff

His ult is so bad for how cool it looks

[HaveHimExecutedASAP]

Some of the buffs and nerfs are kind of questionable, but I feel like they were going off old data.

Wolverine getting a buff is very questionable, he really didn't need an extra 50 HP, which makes me think they based some of these buffs off when people thought he was the worst character in the game.

I honestly feel if each side in ranked had 3 bans instead of 2 that Wolverine might be permabanned in diamond +

Doomposting probably isn't warranted yet, but if there isn't a mid-season balance update then Season 1 could potentially be pretty dreadful competitive wise.

[Dr Hashbrown]

Originally posted by Borko:

These are nothing changes, pretty much all of them. They're weak, and I can't see myself playing through 2 entire MONTHS of the exact same boring annoying things I've put up with during season 0.

Season 1 will be almost exactly the same as season 0.
Hela every single match destroying everyone and being banned in every game of comp from Diamond up.
Many characters unplayable because Hela counters them so hard (Iron Man)
Luna Snow and Mantis every match taking turns ulting to make their team immortal.
Loki being the god of everything and having no weaknesses.
Rocket being the worst support in the game.
Iron Fist obliterating anyone in the backline and also blocking literally EVERYTHING in the game just by using right click.

2 months of all this.
Literally worse balance team than Overwatch, and that's a really hard thing to do.

skill issue tbh

[Enderscen]

Yo -5% season damage and hawkeye too so wait and see

[Kogan]

Hela
"The Goddess of Death has been a menace and we’ll slightly decreasing her combat strength."
-Reduce base health from 275 to 250.

LOL

Definitely some of the funniest "patch notes" I've ever read in my life. And they will definitely be getting clowned all over the internet with this one.

[Alt]

Originally posted by Princz:

Originally posted by Kitt 🌟 Stargazer:

People failed to convince them that anything more significant was needed is all. You can suggest and and ask for changes all you want, but they're also allowed to say "no, I don't agree with that and will not make those types of changes either".

The problem with that is i cant find their reasioning. They said themself that Hela was too strong..

Okay..

So -25hp is the best they can come up with?

Its not only -25 HP. Learn to read. They nerfed her falloff damage. Now she cant 2 tap you at middle+ range. Only in close range. They also changed +20% damage bonus for all duelists to +15%

[AlexWolf]

ok crack xD

[Kitt 🌟 Stargazer]

Originally posted by Alt:

Originally posted by Princz:

The problem with that is i cant find their reasioning. They said themself that Hela was too strong..

Okay..

So -25hp is the best they can come up with?

Its not only -25 HP. Learn to read. They nerfed her falloff damage. Now she cant 2 tap you at middle+ range. Only in close range.

Also means having lowered health will make it a bigger risk getting close enough to targets to take advantage of those double taps too. Even for melee characters who generally would be moving close where she could execute it.

Does she have a seasonal buff that's going away too? I don't play Hela ( at least not more then once or twice ) so I'm not aware of it.

[Alt]

Originally posted by HaveHimExecutedASAP:

I actually didn't notice that Helas ultimate wasn't touched and thats actually insane, she definitely needed an ultimate nerf.

Her ultimate is good, but not that good. Anything with a shield and hyper heal can counter her ult. Support ults, loki's shift. Strange's shield, etc.

[HaveHimExecutedASAP]

Originally posted by Alt:

Originally posted by HaveHimExecutedASAP:

I actually didn't notice that Helas ultimate wasn't touched and thats actually insane, she definitely needed an ultimate nerf.

Her ultimate is good, but not that good. Anything with a shield and hyper heal can counter her. Support ults, loki's shift. Strange's shield, etc.

I agree actually, but an HP nerf shouldve probably been done at the least, just seems like the bloated HP pool she gets in it doesnt need to be so high for being a second life basically

[NeonRed]

Originally posted by HaveHimExecutedASAP:

Originally posted by Alt:

Her ultimate is good, but not that good. Anything with a shield and hyper heal can counter her. Support ults, loki's shift. Strange's shield, etc.

I agree actually, but an HP nerf shouldve probably been done at the least, just seems like the bloated HP pool she gets in it doesnt need to be so high for being a second life basically

Last i checked her ult also gives wallhack for the duration which isn't listed anywhere.