So No Changes Were Made To Scarlet Witch's Ult?

[DorkSparce]

Her ult is what needs to be tweaked, in my experience its the weakest part of her kit. It needed to get looked at considering how stupidly easy it is shutdown. Pretty sure the success rate for getting kills with it is next to nothing.

Before anyone attempts to say otherwise, its easy to land the ult with a well placed portal from Strange, otherwise trying to use the environment to hide and pop out just before the explosion usually results in 0 kills. Finding a spot to hide while also having it be in a good position where the enemy team can't hide from is equally as difficult.

Her ult either needs to be shortened to make up for not having any kind of defense, or make up for that long casting time with increased defense.

This is why Hela's ult is ♥♥♥♥♥♥ stupid, she's an easy target yet her ult has its own dedicated health bar and even if you deplete all of it to cancel her ult early, she doesn't die and instead is able to escape from it with her own health bar intact.

[HughManatee]

I agree about Hela. Pretty much every aspect of her design is braindead boring trash.

I am mixed on Scarlet's ult though. On the one hand, it's stupid powerful, and making her harder to shut down will be very frustrating. On the other hand, I don't think her ult is very effective as player skill increases.
As long as you have opponents who don't think to look up, or who just run away when they hear the voiceline, Scarlet's ult wrecks face. Just go invis to float above them, then ult and stay above the ranged characters so it's harder for them to find you when they look around the room in a panic.

[taxi83]

Scarlet ultimate is considered the best ult in the game by prety much every single high ranked player

[HaveHimExecutedASAP]

Scarlet ult only works against teams that can't aim to shoot her out the sky, have the awareness of a sea urchin or because the Scarlet Witches team made space for her to Ult (Magneto ult next to her or getting shielded or spam healed), outside of that its a toss up whether or not you'll get any real value out of it.

[Dylan]

Originally posted by taxi83:

Scarlet ultimate is considered the best ult in the game by prety much every single high ranked player

LOL

[Nokturnal]

Scarlet's Ult requires teamwork to get the most value out of. Magneto can both shield her and Ult to protect her while she's ulting. Strange can also just block for her and create portals for her to sneak an ult through.

Though even in high level play pulling that off requires both players to be on the same page and utilizing well timed teamwork, which can be hard to pull off in the heat of the moment.

[73Datsun240Z]

This one has me stumped… from what I’ve seen the 10% of the time I get it to work it seems like it is basically a OHKO on any enemy in the range. The problem is getting yourself in range of enemies and knowing when enemies are within range. I like Scarlet Witch for her main kit (Hawkeye used to be my main DPS but his Ult never seemed to work right or would always get cancelled by Dr. Freak), but her Ult almost never proves useful.

I get that the damage is insane but it has no visual cues for its range so there are times where it goes off before I’m killed but doesn’t hit enemies because I can’t tell how safe I need to play it when using it. And the reason you need to play it safe when using it is because she may as well scream “everybody aim at me for the 3 seconds I’m charging my Ult! Hey Peni Parker or Dr. Freak dare you to try and cancel this it would be so easy for you because I’m slow and weak!” at a volume that matches a airplane taking off.

I see it as her design is to punish weakened enemies who misplayed and have to flee, pressure healers so other opponents are left unprotected, and take aggro to keep enemies from bullying key teammates. She does DPS but has non healing support at an underlying level.

Her having one powerful crowd control attack in the form of an Ult is not overpowered in my opinion as you will likely only get it 2-3 times a game. It is meant to punish teams who group up to heavily, or clear the objective area to give your team a chance at a comeback. I’ve been saying it needs to be either:
1. Keep the charge up time but be a lot more stealthy. No screaming “team fire on me immediately you have time!” with increased movement speed, or weak cloaking similar to her L Shift.
2. No stealth or movement speed added but some form of survivability like temp health, or Hela where she doesn’t die if shot out of it. Possibly even temp damage reduction.
3. Just make the charge shorter. While probably not the best choice it makes strategic sense forcing the entire team to focus fire you allowing good allies to get an advantage.

[taxi83]

Originally posted by HaveHimExecutedASAP:

Scarlet ult only works against teams that can't aim to shoot her out the sky, have the awareness of a sea urchin or because the Scarlet Witches team made space for her to Ult (Magneto ult next to her or getting shielded or spam healed), outside of that its a toss up whether or not you'll get any real value out of it.

You can protect her while shes on ultimate, but ofc you cant ask that to a low elo player, its better to just complain about "how bad it is"

[Ruke (Soreasan)]

While not as good as ledge, I've seen some reddit clips of people comboing Jeff the shark / Groot into Scarlet ult.

Probably more work than a ledge and i think Jeff is technially very low t500 wirnate despite cute and good self heals. Gm level aimers can probably coordinate and shred him in a second. He has 6x 100 self heals vs 100 hp x1-2 of the others, but his head is a entire critbox. I wonder if they should increase the crit reducer somewhat or try buffing him with some more hp or maybe a 10% heal share when healing others for non bubble combat sustain.

[Plagues]

Just need to be better with her ult. Get high up, start it around a corner, turn the corner before it pops

Also, just heal her. Shield her.... Any kind of team play helps.

[Vexov]

I think the bigger problem is Strange's portal. How is there going to be any balancing when you can do thing like Scarlet Ultimate instantly from it. Combination attacks are great, but not so sure this is the way.

Strange's portal should be a damn Ultimate considering the fast travel and number of cheesy tactics you can do. If it is game changing then it should be an ult.

[Teddy Roosevelt]

Her ult is a noob killer. She moves very slow and yells very loud and it takes like 3 seconds to charge. Use your movement abilities or hide behind something solid.

[Shifue]

So trying to draw any parallels to scarlet is not really accurate to be fair. So lets take hela her ult is rather strong but she doesn't kill people in one hit. Scarlet deletes everyone in one hit so there has to be a balance for it which is part of the range and the fact of taking her down easier then say hela. With hela she can't move and has to aim basically functioning like a high power turret. Now granted I think hela is extremely strong and also she is getting some nerfs due to her power and I feel that her shield in her ult is way to much but still beside the point. The fact is you can take cover from hela you can block her shots etc. There is only limited ways to stop scarlet and one of them being cloaks veil you can bet on that not happening 97% of the time.

Everyone has their role inside of the 3 classes and her ult is no different it's either bust it out in a team fight when there is a bit of chaos happening and you have the support. Having certain set ups also makes her ult virtually unstoppable or you flank them since you can float and go invisible to fly a little. Main point being you can play anyone you want but the effectiveness is on how good you are and then how good your team is or the composition of your team or theirs. Hope this gives you a little better of an ideal.

[Galahad]

I think it needs to go off a bit sooner. Like a second sooner. She shouts Chaos for too long. She mostly dies while shouting Chaos because it's like Puuuuure. Chaooooooooooos!!!

That's too many ooos in the aos of Chaos.

[Galahad]

If you compare it to the time that you have to react to say psylocke's ultimate. If you hear japanese and she's placed it well, you're probably dead already.

[TwoFaceTony]

Don't worry, the Scarlet Witch ult buff is coming in the form of a support that can slap a shield in front of her.
Honestly, her ult is already in a good place. If they give it a significant buff, then you'd see her in every single match. She's already pretty easy to play, and her ult being a totally free point clear would reduce her skill expression even more. If they give it a significant nerf, people may simply stop using it because it wouldn't be worth the attempt.