Reminder that Adam warlock is a GARBAGE hero if you're not in a 6 man stack

[Haruspex]

Example:
https://i.imgur.com/o98vJXP.png

Why Adam warlock is garbage:
6 second cooldown between heals that means an aggressive enemy team would easily outdps your team's heals and take out someone within that cool down timeframe.

You only use your ultimate 1-4x in a single match when a normal human being support would use theirs double or even triple that amount.

Soulbond sucks ass. 30 seconds cooldown and 10 hps. You know what's better? Loki's healing rune.

If you're stomping with a Adam warlock with your team it was team diff in the first place plain and simple.

[Rekronik]

Adam's mobility is so bad the dev's just gave up and gave him a free self-rezz

[Teddy Roosevelt]

Originally posted by Bluey:

Originally posted by Teddy Roosevelt:

The actual data? Hes high skill. So noobs think he sucks. I have seen him do most healing while saving team fights with rezzes and still getting damage.

The reason he doesnt get as many ults off is be cause people save it for big rez instead of using it to save team fights with 1 or 2 rezzes. skill issue.

The reason his soul bond doesnt heal is because its supposed to share damage between all characters to nullify group attacks like ults and such. It again requires high skill to use properly. skill issue

he has long gaps between heals but can heal 1/2 a dps health in one shot and it jumps to other players. Used correctly its great. especially on tanks where you can afford to let their health drop a little before you heal. again, skill issue.

See at high rank he does well because people who are smart can use him properly. Most people dont even know how his ult revives people. Its in a circle around him, and you can leave the original point of rez around the corner where it cant be seen.

Honestly this all comes from a place of ignorance. Your just not good enough to see how he can be usefull.

You can pick any of the top 500 players with their match history and blatantly see Adam is doing the lesser of the heals MOST of the time. Stop lying.
Yes you're saving rez that a normal support could use his ultimate double or triple the amount a regular Adam does. More potential win fights.

His soul bond sucks. It has a 15 m range you're basically have to be hugging balls for it to work with a 30 seconds cool down. Loki has that in 25 plus actually give immortality and better range. Sharing damage is the most garbage skill I have ever seen when you just heal it. You can practically kill some of your teammates because they got soul bonded and a Spiderman dives and arrives with most of his health missing.

Those gaps in heals would get you overwhelmed by a team with good aim.

In high rank he does well because everyone there is in some form of team stack and actually use communication. Hey if we want to use the high rank argument so badly you can see that in match histories of top 500 players people still spam Luna/Mantis.
I'd say the problem with his ultimate already that most people don't even actually understand how it works so don't even bring that up.

Ignorance how?
Most people aren't in high rank and most players in general is not in a stack so they're better off playing with better healer that mesh well with randoms?

Those gaps in heals would get you overwhelmed by a team with good aim.

"except against a team with good aim your team should be good too and therefor understand cover and using tank as help. It becomes a non issue.

Yes other healers have better abilities, he has rez, one of the strongest ults in game. Thats how balance works. He also can self rez. He can also nullify ults with soul bond. he has lots of utility that isnt straight healing, thats how balance works.

Im not gonna ignore bringing up his ult just because people dont know how to use it. In fact thats the opposite of what i should do. I should make people aware of how it works and that its very powerful.

Your whole point of view is just negative and incorrect. You can agree to disagree. Have a good one.

[NeonRed]

So uh pick and win rates out now and Adam is basically on par with Mantis in GM and above for wins with a solid pick rate. Through all ranks numbers say he's performing above average.

[Haruspex]

Originally posted by NeonRed:

So uh pick and win rates out now and Adam is basically on par with Mantis in GM and above for wins with a solid pick rate. Through all ranks numbers say he's performing above average.

Win rate and pick rate isn't entirely accurate since there's less heroes to pick from in GM above there's only 5 strategist to pick. The meta is so skewered over Luna/Mantis that if either is banned it becomes a variation of Mantis/Warlock to Luna/Warlock, Rocket/Warlock and not enough composition so it's these characters practically fighting their selves so a 50% win rate isn't surprising.
That's why the stats is so vastly different when you take a look at DPS role.

[Haruspex]

Originally posted by Teddy Roosevelt:

Originally posted by Bluey:

You can pick any of the top 500 players with their match history and blatantly see Adam is doing the lesser of the heals MOST of the time. Stop lying.
Yes you're saving rez that a normal support could use his ultimate double or triple the amount a regular Adam does. More potential win fights.

His soul bond sucks. It has a 15 m range you're basically have to be hugging balls for it to work with a 30 seconds cool down. Loki has that in 25 plus actually give immortality and better range. Sharing damage is the most garbage skill I have ever seen when you just heal it. You can practically kill some of your teammates because they got soul bonded and a Spiderman dives and arrives with most of his health missing.

Those gaps in heals would get you overwhelmed by a team with good aim.

In high rank he does well because everyone there is in some form of team stack and actually use communication. Hey if we want to use the high rank argument so badly you can see that in match histories of top 500 players people still spam Luna/Mantis.
I'd say the problem with his ultimate already that most people don't even actually understand how it works so don't even bring that up.

Ignorance how?
Most people aren't in high rank and most players in general is not in a stack so they're better off playing with better healer that mesh well with randoms?

Those gaps in heals would get you overwhelmed by a team with good aim.

"except against a team with good aim your team should be good too and therefor understand cover and using tank as help. It becomes a non issue.

Yes other healers have better abilities, he has rez, one of the strongest ults in game. Thats how balance works. He also can self rez. He can also nullify ults with soul bond. he has lots of utility that isnt straight healing, thats how balance works.

Im not gonna ignore bringing up his ult just because people dont know how to use it. In fact thats the opposite of what i should do. I should make people aware of how it works and that its very powerful.

Your whole point of view is just negative and incorrect. You can agree to disagree. Have a good one.

Not a none issue. You'll lose to a team with Luna/Mantis if you're running a Warlock/Luna or Warlock/Mantis it's common sense your entire team healing output is literally halved or is missing 1/4th as soon as you picked Warlock. It's wild you even tried to argue this when a team with better heals allows them for better plays and aggression.

You know what other healers have? The ability to have your team live in the first place and use those ultimate several times more in a match. You won't need a a 6 man rez if they didn't die in the first place.
Soul bond doesn't nullify ults. It spreads it. Anyone unfortunate enough to get soul bonded and outside the healing range gets their health obliterated by being far.
What kind of utility? He's not a complicated character lmao.

The fact that you're not bringing up something just means you don't know why Adam is picked. All superficial knowledge from you.

51 hours in the game no wonder you're clueless about some areas of the game haha.
Wait weren't you the same guy asking for screen shots if I was GM back in december? but was as quiet as a church mouse when I actually posted it? Lmao

[Onnajy]

AW isn't terrible just niche. His drawback is definitely healing but he follows the same principles as Mantis or Zenyatta in OW.

Your focus isn't healing but dealing enough damage to the enemy team to negate the necessity of requiring focused healing and dragging out fights altogether.

Complaining about his heals while not bringing up his potential for damage implies you're overlooking a major part of his design - his damage. Go to PR and test his headshots compared to the other healers and it should be clear what his intended role is and why his heals suck in comparison to the other healers.

[Mufti]

You're playing him incorrectly. He's just focused on large slow chain heals an resurrections. Skill issue, learn the character, watch videos, READ the ability descriptions. Adam can heal an entire team on half health to full often.

[Haruspex]

Originally posted by Onnajy:

AW isn't terrible just niche. His drawback is definitely healing but he follows the same principles as Mantis or Zenyatta in OW.

Your focus isn't healing but dealing enough damage to the enemy team to negate the necessity of requiring focused healing and dragging out fights altogether.

Complaining about his heals while not bringing up his potential for damage implies you're overlooking a major part of his design - his damage. Go to PR and test his headshots compared to the other healers and it should be clear what his intended role is and why his heals suck in comparison to the other healers.

This isn't Overwatch. There's no character in Overwatch that could deal 250+ dps off one ability that's not even an ultimate as an example. The damage scaling significantly higher.

His damage isn't not that amazing even with all the tech that's around. Check matches histories of people in the top 500. His damage is nothing to brag about. You're better off as Mantis with better all around tool kit that she might as well be a support Hela while pumping out heals comparable to Luna.
If you want to play DPS then go play an actual DPS don't play a healer that's bad at his job.

[Haruspex]

Originally posted by Mufti:

You're playing him incorrectly. He's just focused on large slow chain heals an resurrections. Skill issue, learn the character, watch videos, READ the ability descriptions. Adam can heal an entire team on half health to full often.

Yet why is most adam matches has him having the worst healing done in the entire match? With the main healer doing twice the amount of heals?
A good team can remove that healing amount in seconds where's Adam going to be? Playing with his thumbs because his heal is on cool down?
Oh yeah you're going to be waiting at the back for everyone to die so pop that 6 man rez.

[JG2thend]

if you need heals more than once every 4 seconds you are the problem

[MAGA Slayer ⑨]

Sounds like a you problem

[Sister Iris]

Originally posted by Bluey:

Originally posted by Mufti:

You're playing him incorrectly. He's just focused on large slow chain heals an resurrections. Skill issue, learn the character, watch videos, READ the ability descriptions. Adam can heal an entire team on half health to full often.

Yet why is most adam matches has him having the worst healing done in the entire match? With the main healer doing twice the amount of heals?
A good team can remove that healing amount in seconds where's Adam going to be? Playing with his thumbs because his heal is on cool down?
Oh yeah you're going to be waiting at the back for everyone to die so pop that 6 man rez.

because adam is not a main healer lol. He has a lot of really good utility his trade off is no mobility and a burst heal on long cooldown

[EmperorVolo]

Don't you think the 53.59% win rate which is comparable to other strategiests suggest the possibility you don't know what you're talking about?

[OhHellYeah]

Warlock claps lol.

[BloodDragoon]

adam is great in 3 healers, not great with 2.