I'm very pro Marvel Rivals, but as a solo player, ranked mode is showing big problems for longevity

[AAAkaneAAA]

Hi all. I'm a solo player who plays mainly support/tank in ranked. I'm not interested in quickplay as unless player ability is balanced I don't enjoy matches, especially when there is a clear difference in team ability. I've played a number of hours over the holidays, around low diamond/high plat, and although I enjoyed the experience at the beginning, I find ranked really erratic in terms of match quality and balance to the point at which it is interfering with my enjoyment of the game substantially. From one game to another, the match balance is normally wildly out with very few close games. Furthermore, I'm finding that in a substantial amount of games you get DPS players that wont switch and so a number of games you'll get DPS heavy fail teams who don't care about a balanced team and actually haven't got experience in doing support or tank, which you would think shouldn't be happening at this level. Once there are a number of these players in the same team, it's gg from the beginning, and you feel your time is being wasted having to go through the match to be told the loss you know you're going to get and can't do anything about. The match quality has become very steam-rolly and so you feel pretty much bored and useless playing in these matches. There shouldn't be this inconsistency of quality from one game to the next. Also, I can't see which teams are in pre-made stacks, so I don't know if the game is providing a good experience for solo players by making these fair. This is a big turn off for me and kind of stinks of the old dilapidated man called Overwatch (2 lols) that made a point to deprive players of information to see for themselves whether they are being balanced fairly in a match: I seriously recommend to Marvel Rivals that they don't copy this anti-player approach to gaming as you end up (like Overdead) with players that want you to fail. Will Marvel Rivals acknowledge there is a problem with their ranked mode for solo players and do something to continue making it enjoyable and worthwhile? Otherwise, I don't see a point in the game mode for people like me, and hence the game.

[ST47AN]

I get what OP is saying about the team play but I think it's more on the players than the game itself. A lot of selfish players, even when playing bots you have DPS players acting entitled, can only imagine how they act in ranked. Im new to hero shooters (never played overwatch) but I caught on quick that I need to learn more than 1 character (still in process) to do well at the game. Meanwhile my GF is hard locked into one DPS character & feels like doing anything other than getting kills is too much lol. That mad me realize that other people probable feel that way as well. I want to DPS with the rest of them but I also want to win so mainly play tank & support.

[Karnarax]

MMR forces you to have 50-50 wins/losses. (same for qp too). If you count your victories and your losses it will be 50-50. Which is really sad - matchmaking is rigged.

[SoulReaperAxel]

chatgpt

[ElStickman]

The ranked matchmaking is a joke. I don't know if it's the players or São Paulo server, but I just had 3 AFK players in a ranked match, and I'm penalized for that loss. Why? The game gives a huge LP loss for it. Then, in the next game, I get players who instalock DPS and don't kill anything. They focus on tanks that can't be killed, deal 20k damage with no kills, and claim, "but I did 20k damage."

I play as a tank or healer most of the time, and if the DPS don't do their job, sometimes there's nothing you can do. This is supposed to be a team game, but most DPS play singleplayer. I'm not saying healers and tanks are all innocent. Some too try to overpush and "carry", but they can't do it alone. I wouldn't mind if this happened in 1 or 2 games, but 7 out of 10 games are like this. If it was 50/50, going up the ranks would be easy.

I don't think role queue will fix this—just look at what happened with Overwatch.

The solution we need is to set a higher level requirement for ranked matches. Too many people are trying to spam DPS in ranked while they’re still learning, and it’s just too much.

[ninjaguyDan]

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They are OP 1 v 1 vs any role but there's a critical point where a large number of them becomes ineffective vs a balanced team.

bad take

[Karnarax]

This was VERY hard to read wo paragraphs btw - so please, add them next time!

[AAAkaneAAA]

Totally serious. If the rank system can't appropriately level up all classes across the ranks, then the system is broken and I'm not interested in playing to its issues. I'm not playing differently to suit a lack of good rank design in a team game which requires different roles to work together. I'd rather play something else.

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You can't be serious here. If you want it to be "not punishing" then you might as well play counter-strike. The roles are fundamentally different and support by its definition means relying on your team. That's the design, that's not "punishing". If your goal is to climb out, you must make an impact - but supports are only making substantial impact when their team is good aka not in low ELO.

It's called .. life? Complaining about that is simply counter-productive. [/quote]

[AAAkaneAAA]

Feel free to use the art of outlining your point rather than state a conclusion as your defence. Always helps when there's a difference in point of view.

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bad take [/quote]

[Teddy Roosevelt]

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I’ve been playing solo and am just a few wins away from reaching Diamond with a 70% winrate as a Rocket main. I’ve never been completely stomped outside of Quickplay, even though I wouldn’t consider myself a good player. Sorry to hear you’re having a tough time in-game.

Yep, didn't happen to me either until Plat 1. Then it became very swingy, completely different experience. Also, weekends make it worse for some reason. Again, don't know why.

Thats because people that were in low gold in OW are making low diamond in MR and it makes games swingy as bad players get washed out.

[AAAkaneAAA]

Don't understand what you mean. Can't see the reasoning in what you said.

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Yep, didn't happen to me either until Plat 1. Then it became very swingy, completely different experience. Also, weekends make it worse for some reason. Again, don't know why.

Thats because people that were in low gold in OW are making low diamond in MR and it makes games swingy as bad players get washed out.

[Shiro]

I'm playing on all three types tank healer and dps ! Main dps most fun fact dps players insist to change tank or healer when they are not good at it ! It's so much fun in that ! When they are seeing statistics in the end

[Organdin]

Just make it so all players in competitive are solo players, no pre-made groups.

[Shapes]

First of all, im a only solo player. Honestly, I was suprised, how far you can go in ranked. Second of all, im honest, im not good in hero-shooter-games. Usually when I play games similar to marvel rivals (OW2, maybe even apex legends) in the first few "low" ranks, you achieve a good amount of progress. But after a while, you just getting into harder lobbies and with that, better and more coordinated teams. With that, running into a fullstack is not very unusual.

But in Marvel Rivals (for me) it was a different story. After lvl 10, I started playing ranked. I was afraid im not gonna have a good time, especially as a solo.
After around 3 days of playing some ranked, I managed to peak at Grandmaster 3. I feel like If you ride with the current meta, you can achieve alot, even as a solo player.
The rank system is fair, if you lose matches, you lose elo, but most of the time, you gain more than you lose (even in diamond elo).
If you're about to rank down, you are not dropping instantly into the worse division, you rather lose some "negative" elo first, until you lose 1-2 more games. This way you wont drop rock bottom and have a good chance to climb back up.

-> In my opinion, If you're having a hard time, and by a hard time I really mean A ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ hard time, then you probably shouldn't be in the current ranked-group.
If you feel like your team is always the problem, maybe watch a demo of yourself (great way to improve) and ask yourself, why you died in some cases.
Start to focus on yourself, instead of always blaming the team.
Yes, sometimes you have bad teammates.
Yes, sometimes the enemy team is having a good day.
-But its not always that way. Mentality is a very big problem in shooter games. Sometimes taking a small break is a huge gamechanger.

[Anslag]

the big problem with this game is that you have to suffer games where there are 5 dps, we need a role lock

[Krumpazoid]

Im in elo hell, close to platinum but get matches ruined all the time. its like the game is rigged so much that I must be forced to carry a team if I can rank past a certain rank. But my teams get stomped anyway. I tend to do better as duelist but I never get to play it.