Please peel or help your Strategists when they're getting dived

[£ Me David]

If none of you want to pick Strategist, fine, some of us will do our best to solo heal but y'all need to support your Strategist when they're getting dived on. We cannot physically solo heal a group where everyone leaves us to die while dive characters hit the back line to take us out.

And if you're asked to help, please don't retort with some stupid comment about not needing to help out only to then demand to know where heals are. Solo healing is already frustrating enough when you have 4 Duellists and a Vanguard spreading out around the map.

[NeonCyberSamurai]

Peel its about getting the pressure off your damn Teammate regardless what role it is healer or dps , "peel" as gaming term just got generalized to mean one or 2 things because of LoL and OverWatch but its more wide than just CC.

If my role is to keep you healed your role is to keep me from being harassed by divers especially if i ping/ mark them .

[OMEGA]

Stain lähetti viestin:

just self peel. you are a dps with some healing. not a heal bot.

bruh wtf you expect adam warlock to take down a black panther dashing at 1000mph

[£ Me David]

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SoloQ lähetti viestin:

To add to the "strategist requests" list. Please learn where the health packs are on the maps. Expecting the healers to stop healing the people in the thick of the fight, to turn to heal you, whose standing there doing nothing but pinging for heals, is absurd when there are 20+ health packs that respawn in 10s across the map.

Peeling isn't just about CC. It's about turning your attention to the target attacking your healer and stopping them from killing said healer.

Funny, i rarely get healed when im in the "thick" of the fight. Most of my losses mainly stem from Strategists that want to dps and not heal or just brain dead players in general. It's why i've moved away from playing Vanguard, and went with duelist more often. That said when an enemy team has a competent healer, especially two of them, good luck trying to flank and dive anyone as a duelist.

If you're not getting healed then take a look to see what you're Strategists are dealing with in the backlines. More often than not we have a couple of diving Duelists up our asses preventing us from actually throwing healing out.

As CaD I can shroud out of a sticky situation to get high ground and continue healing you, but a Duelist that is built for dive will easily have ways to catch up to us pretty much straight away. This is exactly why I'm commenting on the fact that Strategists are getting no support, especially in situations where they're solo healing in 1-4-1 party comp.

1-4-1 is viable, but to make that ♥♥♥♥ work at least one of the Duelists need to be prepared to take a backline defence to help their Strategists out against dive comps. Or they need to switch to Strategist and change the set up to 1-3-2.

[£ Me David]

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just self peel. you are a dps with some healing. not a heal bot.

You clearly decided to cherry pick parts of this conversation for your reply.

In certain team comps we are pretty much forced to heal bot since more than of the team would rather insta lock a duelist.

Not to mention the moment you don't heal someone they start spamming and demanding heals.

Strategists literally can't win against a lot of you. If we're heal botting, we're bad. If we're not healing because we're protecting ourselves against an enemy diving us, we're bad. If we can't win a 1v2 when getting dived, we're bad.

As I've previously mentioned, it's not hard for at least one Duellist to turn around and pick off even one of the divers harassing their Strategist. The quicker someone does it, the quicker you get back to the team fight. None of you seem to want to do that though and force your teammate to play a single player match in a team game.

[Jc]

@£ Me David

As I also mainly play Strategists I can totally feel your pain. And like 6 out of 10 matches with randoms I'm also always facing the same issues. Sometimes I can mitigate it or one of my fellow random teammate(s) turn around and helps out, but most of the time I'm just getting ignored and being left for dead (even when someone's literally bashing my back, and I'm close to my team, and the rest of my team are like totally blindfolded), and then ppl just spam the ping, and spamming the chat like "HEAL HEAL?!" without actually realizing the real problem. As I've checked out quite a few pro tournament and ranked matches, most of the teams are always rolling with the following setup which helps a lot:
1 tank
3 dps
2 healer / support

or

2 tanks
2 dps
2 healer / support

(Needless to say that with 2 healers you can actually support each other, so you won't get steamrolled. But good luck finding a random game where ppl actually give a damn, hence most of the time I also solo heal.)

And they actually lend a helping hand when their supports are in a pinch, not on a babysitting way, but they're keeping an eye on them for sure. Also a role queue would help a lot imho like it did back in the classic OW days, since on many occasions ppl tend to rage-change classes after a few deaths, like everyone's changing to dps with only 1 healer left in the team, then the enemy team will simply take the given opportunity and destroy you with 2 tanks and with the rest of them dps and supports. So yeah, it's not really ideal atm. Also when your team just randomly chasing and trying to pvp around the map for no reason, when instead they should stand on the capture point, and leaving you totally alone on the capture point as a healer (since someone's gotta cap it) and then crying for not getting heals on the other side of the map while they're chasing like 1 or 2 enemy players, and ofc then you'll get destroyed on the cap point, since the rest of the enemy team will just simply rush you.

But tbh, I'm not really surprised about these current issues atm since OW had the same back in its initial period. And the lack of team awareness / teamplay / IQ can not be patched or hotfixed unfortunately. The only thing one can do when it comes to playing with randoms is just click on that play button, and hope for the best. Or trying to get some friends to play with, so you can at least eliminate some of the above mentioned problems. I also found that playing ranked instead is a bit better, ppl tend to stick to better teamcomps / strategies more, properly doing the objectives and not just randomly running around the map TDM style, so actually giving a damn.