Please peel or help your Strategists when they're getting dived

[£ Me David]

If none of you want to pick Strategist, fine, some of us will do our best to solo heal but y'all need to support your Strategist when they're getting dived on. We cannot physically solo heal a group where everyone leaves us to die while dive characters hit the back line to take us out.

And if you're asked to help, please don't retort with some stupid comment about not needing to help out only to then demand to know where heals are. Solo healing is already frustrating enough when you have 4 Duellists and a Vanguard spreading out around the map.

[45ay3asdasd]

there is no concept of 'peel' in this game. only a few characters have slows and they are not anything close to peel. strategies like from OW dont work here because those things dont exist. the only way to not die to dives is to kill them faster, which is why strategists can do so much dps.

[£ Me David]

Originally posted by 45ay3asdasd:

there is no concept of 'peel' in this game. only a few characters have slows and they are not anything close to peel. strategies like from OW dont work here because those things dont exist. the only way to not die to dives is to kill them faster, which is why strategists can do so much dps.

Peel or not, support from someone when you get dived IS still required. Not every Strategist is going to be able to out DPS every dive character coming their way. A Strategist is NOT going to able to out DPS two dive characters coming their way either, and even with an escape it is fairly easy for at least one of them to catch up with you.

It isn't hard for one person in a team of 6 to help the support getting dived on.

I'm also talking about the fact that a Strategist getting dived when solo healing pretty much forces them to take their eyes off of the team and waste valuable resources that should ideally be used for their teammates in order to make up for the lacking secondary support.

[45ay3asdasd]

Originally posted by £ Me David:

Originally posted by 45ay3asdasd:

there is no concept of 'peel' in this game. only a few characters have slows and they are not anything close to peel. strategies like from OW dont work here because those things dont exist. the only way to not die to dives is to kill them faster, which is why strategists can do so much dps.

Peel or not, support from someone when you get dived IS still required. Not every Strategist is going to be able to out DPS every dive character coming their way. A Strategist is NOT going to able to out DPS two dive characters coming their way either, and even with an escape it is fairly easy for at least one of them to catch up with you.

It isn't hard for one person in a team of 6 to help the support getting dived on.

I'm also talking about the fact that a Strategist getting dived when solo healing pretty much forces them to take their eyes off of the team and waste valuable resources that should ideally be used for their teammates in order to make up for the lacking secondary support.

trading two dps for a strategist is a good trade for your team, unless your teammates just let the them walk away after diving you...

[£ Me David]

Originally posted by 45ay3asdasd:

Originally posted by £ Me David:

Peel or not, support from someone when you get dived IS still required. Not every Strategist is going to be able to out DPS every dive character coming their way. A Strategist is NOT going to able to out DPS two dive characters coming their way either, and even with an escape it is fairly easy for at least one of them to catch up with you.

It isn't hard for one person in a team of 6 to help the support getting dived on.

I'm also talking about the fact that a Strategist getting dived when solo healing pretty much forces them to take their eyes off of the team and waste valuable resources that should ideally be used for their teammates in order to make up for the lacking secondary support.

trading two dps for a strategist is a good trade for your team, unless your teammates just let the them walk away after diving you...

That isn't what happens though. If it was a case of trading two DPS for a Strategist then I wouldn't be needing or complaining about additional support because I would have that support for them to have been taken out. If I'm dead because I had to Duellists dive me, and they walk away afterwards then I clearly had zero support to keep them off of me.

Meanwhile, while I'm dealing with the two diving me the rest of my team are biting the dust and demanding heals because I'm busy trying to keep myself alive, all because 1 person can't pull themselves away to give support.

There is a huge issue with Strategists getting the "where are my heals" complaint while they're busy trying to fend off divers in the backline that nobody wants to do anything about.

I also don't have an issue dealing with people diving me in 1v1 scenarios because I can reliably use my kit to escape, but again that isn't exactly feasible in a solo heal situation where your strongest abilities are what you need to actually keep the team alive.

[SoloQ]

To add to the "strategist requests" list. Please learn where the health packs are on the maps. Expecting the healers to stop healing the people in the thick of the fight, to turn to heal you, whose standing there doing nothing but pinging for heals, is absurd when there are 20+ health packs that respawn in 10s across the map.

Peeling isn't just about CC. It's about turning your attention to the target attacking your healer and stopping them from killing said healer.

[£ Me David]

Originally posted by SoloQ:

To add to the "strategist requests" list. Please learn where the health packs are on the maps. Expecting the healers to stop healing the people in the thick of the fight, to turn to heal you, whose standing there doing nothing but pinging for heals, is absurd when there are 20+ health packs that respawn in 10s across the map.

Peeling isn't just about CC. It's about turning your attention to the target attacking your healer and stopping them from killing said healer.

This is a big one. If you're hiding in a corner of the map away from the fight don't spam ping for healing, and instead locate a health pack. Or at the very least get into a visible zone around the fight area to get healing so we don't have to chase you down or take our attention away from the people currently in combat.

The only time we'll ever chase a teammate down to heal them is if the fight is over and we have some breathing room, outside of that it's either getting in our range/line of sight or located a health pack.

[DoremianCleff]

Kinda off topic, but sometimes pings for health are accidental.
For some reason they made ping wheel way too sensitive and every time i try to mark someone for the team, i start spaming "heal me" instead. I need to change the bind, but i always forget about it and only remember when i start pinging for health again, lol.

[Hajile]

Originally posted by SoloQ:

To add to the "strategist requests" list. Please learn where the health packs are on the maps. Expecting the healers to stop healing the people in the thick of the fight, to turn to heal you, whose standing there doing nothing but pinging for heals, is absurd when there are 20+ health packs that respawn in 10s across the map.

Peeling isn't just about CC. It's about turning your attention to the target attacking your healer and stopping them from killing said healer.

I've had to do quick seminars at the start of match and try to tell them how my support works before the door opens. And to remind them to use the heathpacks if they're tanks because i'm solo healing and if i end up pocketinbg the tank, the other four won't have any heals.

Too many times i've been in a comp game where everyone runs back and forth next to the healthpack on low health, like they aren't even aware there's a healthpack behind the desk or something. The healthpacks on payload maps are right next to the route and they don't seem to know tjeu're there. They're going into Comp with no map knowledge!

Dude, my job involves watching everyone, i absolutely notice how you're pausing and using abilities like you're reading off the help screen, i know how well you're using your characters mobility, i know the routes you're taking. Do your practicing in QP before going into comp!!!

[Hajile]

Originally posted by £ Me David:

If none of you want to pick Strategist, fine, some of us will do our best to solo heal but y'all need to support your Strategist when they're getting dived on. We cannot physically solo heal a group where everyone leaves us to die while dive characters hit the back line to take us out.

And if you're asked to help, please don't retort with some stupid comment about not needing to help out only to then demand to know where heals are. Solo healing is already frustrating enough when you have 4 Duellists and a Vanguard spreading out around the map.

If they're not helping you, even after letting them know you're in trouble. Or worse, they tell you to just deal with it. I'll just go practice Loki. He plays like Sombra and can go all over the map, Sombra is not a healer, and Loki is played like a DPS, thanks for letting me practice.

[Akasha]

Originally posted by 45ay3asdasd:

there is no concept of 'peel' in this game. only a few characters have slows and they are not anything close to peel. strategies like from OW dont work here because those things dont exist. the only way to not die to dives is to kill them faster, which is why strategists can do so much dps.

The best peel in this game is damage, adapt and protect your back line, more often than not the person diving your healers isn't getting healed so it's an easy pick...well unless it's spiderman then that's an hard skill check for aim.

[Chunky Cheese]

Originally posted by SoloQ:

To add to the "strategist requests" list. Please learn where the health packs are on the maps. Expecting the healers to stop healing the people in the thick of the fight, to turn to heal you, whose standing there doing nothing but pinging for heals, is absurd when there are 20+ health packs that respawn in 10s across the map.

Peeling isn't just about CC. It's about turning your attention to the target attacking your healer and stopping them from killing said healer.

Second this. I can last getting dove on, but if the 3-4 autolock dps dont realize health packs exist and hit you with a HEALS???? HELLO??? I will scream

[Skunk]

It's up to 1 or 2 out of the 3 or 4 retarded Duelists to help, it's not really a solo Vanguards job either, that's what a second Vanguard is supposed to be for.

[Branded Swordsman 𒉭]

Originally posted by SoloQ:

To add to the "strategist requests" list. Please learn where the health packs are on the maps. Expecting the healers to stop healing the people in the thick of the fight, to turn to heal you, whose standing there doing nothing but pinging for heals, is absurd when there are 20+ health packs that respawn in 10s across the map.

Peeling isn't just about CC. It's about turning your attention to the target attacking your healer and stopping them from killing said healer.

Funny, i rarely get healed when im in the "thick" of the fight. Most of my losses mainly stem from Strategists that want to dps and not heal or just brain dead players in general. It's why i've moved away from playing Vanguard, and went with duelist more often. That said when an enemy team has a competent healer, especially two of them, good luck trying to flank and dive anyone as a duelist.

[OMEGA]

Originally posted by SoloQ:

To add to the "strategist requests" list. Please learn where the health packs are on the maps. Expecting the healers to stop healing the people in the thick of the fight, to turn to heal you, whose standing there doing nothing but pinging for heals, is absurd when there are 20+ health packs that respawn in 10s across the map.

Peeling isn't just about CC. It's about turning your attention to the target attacking your healer and stopping them from killing said healer.

it is in fact that

[YourFreeUseHairbrush]

just self peel. you are a dps with some healing. not a heal bot.