Thoughts on Human Torch yet?

[PoopDog]

I'm playing Doom matches and usually end up around middle pack, always dominated by spidermans, magiks, and scarlet witches - on occasion though I'll see another Torch win and I have absolutely no idea how they're doing it even when I watch their side on a playback.

Trying to play him in qp feels so genuinely awful, I don't feel like I'm actually contributing anything. I get big damage number and big kill number sure, but it's all just from the AOE tickle damage. I think all I'm really doing is feeding their healers fast ults while the scoreboard pats my ego with big number.

I don't get many final hits at all, and they're usually dumb luck from kill-poaching with the m2 -> F combo. I also die a lot bc he's only 250 AND flying, so I'm a big neon orange target for them + my healers have to snap their necks up 45 degrees away from the rest of the action to even realize I'm injured.

Any time I'm in a 1v1 fight I just think "man, if I was Storm/Iron Man I would've won that"

He feels so horribly sluggish to me. He moves and shoots his m1 as if I have 800 ping and I'm flying through jello. The delay on his shotgun is really hard to get used to, I have to guess where the enemy is going to be in 3-5 business days.

I think I just need to git gud, as there are plenty of people doing well with him in Doom match, yeah? Not seeing him in comp, but I think it's just too soon. I don't understand what I'm doing wrong exactly, though. Getting close enough to actually do damage with the m1 is a death sentence at 250 (also with how inconsistent the timing feels), but sitting up in the sky spamming is just feeding.
I'm sort of frustrated and sad playing him bc I was so hyped and then he's just kinda..... bleh.

[Hardwire]

i think he is broken in a bad way his primary damage ability cant be used on any surface besides x plane surfaces even if you hit the other player with it his ult is useless if you have already laid fire down why cant they pop into fire nados why does it have to be a new instance its fun using him with storm but dude is bad right now just real bad his speed boost ability is laughibly slow compaired to all the other flyers and does nothing besides make him move a touch and i mean a touch quicker and what is up with the fire balls spinning around him all the time that does litterally nothing dont use his groud pound you will die.

[Hardwire]

insta fix for his ult let the tornados form and let you link them and have them move along the path they are tonados thows dont stay still

[badger vortex]

the dot damage is just too low and his left click is really hard to hit anything except point blank. so for now he's probably one of the weakest heros in the game

[Hardwire]

Originally posted by badger vortex:

the dot damage is just too low and his left click is really hard to hit anything except point blank. so for now he's probably one of the weakest heros in the game

its glitched in practice if you kill a bot with it and they respawn in fire they died damn near instantly lol

[Veenix]

He feels fine to me.
He is best at close to mid range.
Dots can be used from long range to annoy enemies.
Stacking dots then slamming into them can be a oneshot kill.

He does however need his teamup ability and a supp who actually looks up from time to time.

Use the meteor dive as mobility to get to safety and u will survive many situations that other flyers would not have survived.

Overall he ain't OP but he ain't bad either.

[BoomsticK]

Lots of players just use him to fly high and spam at the floor, and its super boring and makes for lazy dev

[RaddyC]

He's very fun and is now my most played hero. The only problem i have is that pyro prison is absurdly inconsistent. Borderline nonfunctional. If you try to place it on anything that isnt perfectly flat, including minor grades, ramps, single steps, hills, it just doesn't work at all.

[PoopDog]

Originally posted by Hardwire:

i think he is broken in a bad way his primary damage ability cant be used on any surface besides x plane surfaces even if you hit the other player with it his ult is useless if you have already laid fire down why cant they pop into fire nados why does it have to be a new instance its fun using him with storm but dude is bad right now just real bad his speed boost ability is laughibly slow compaired to all the other flyers and does nothing besides make him move a touch and i mean a touch quicker and what is up with the fire balls spinning around him all the time that does litterally nothing dont use his groud pound you will die.

Right, yeah I notice that a lot when enemies are using high ground and that high ground happens to have stairs or be a breakable building - an important half of his kit is just null. I also noticed how finicky his F slam is - it really wants a high and far distance and has a very limit angle, very unlike Venom's slam which can be done even at the last second of a short fall or at some very wide degrees...