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I can’t tell the difference in ranks
This may be the first and only game where I can honestly say ranks don’t matter. Once you hit diamond you get bans. From there, it’s pretty much all the same skill level. Diamond 3 to Eternity It’s all the same. I couldn’t pick out a difference if I was spectating and I think that’s a major problem.

People still throw over minor things. Voice chat is rarely used for anything other than complaining. People leave games randomly unannounced. People target ban their own teammates to mess with them. And just generally the community isn’t very coordinated to good.

I’ve seen really solid players at pretty much every rank and players who have no business being higher than gold in other hero shooters at the tippy top.

This is really killing the game for me. It’s not fun getting people who have a fundamental misunderstanding of how the game works in the top 2 ranks in the game.

For reference, I’m currently Celestial 2. I fluctuate up and down because quite frankly this system makes no sense. I’ve gotten 4 people banned in 3 days for intentionally throwing. You don’t even get points back for that; I’m just throwing it out there because it shouldn’t be happening at this rank.

Announcing you’re throwing when we are in character select should stop at like silver. Wtf is wrong with this game
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Krazy Wallet 2 月 24 日 下午 9:34 
Sounds like a Blizzard employee
Teal V2 2 月 24 日 下午 10:00 
That is rather true.
I'm in currently celestial and just yesterday someone in the pre-pick page already yelled:
"If you lock raccoon, I'll throw".

Teammates tried to be reasonable, saying everyone should just play their best and nothing is wrong with raccoon.
Since raccoon stayed to his pick, that fella picked widow and indeed threw the game.
At the end when people asked for a report for throwing in all chat, quoting what he said in pre-pick phase, he was desperately lying that he did not do such a thing.
What a pathetic human waste.

You would think those kind of players are sorted out with higher ranks, but not at all.
最後修改者:Teal V2; 2 月 24 日 下午 10:01
ravioli 2 月 24 日 下午 10:42 
Once you pass platinum the skill differences end up being fairly small but pivotal. Up to Platinum one guy can carry the whole game because none of these people have played anything but fortnite and ipad games.

Bronze to Gold are iPad kids and fortnite failures, Platinum is full of one trick petty spite lords, Diamond is pretty much the same as Platinum except people learned to switch to the only other character they're good at, and GM+ is where people actually play the game the way it was made.
Veenix 2 月 24 日 下午 11:04 
Disagree.
My GM games have been way better than my Diamond games.
May be a regional thing as I play EU but there is a massive difference here imo. Better teamwork, better communication, more skilled people etc. Only time we really lost was simply due to being outmatched which happens sometimes.
Every other time things didn't go smooth, we communicated the issues and fixed them which lead to a win. That barely happend in Diamond games as people were more selfish in there.
ravioli 2 月 24 日 下午 11:13 
Platinum/Diamond is just by far the most obnoxious petty and spiteful ranks. Like mid Plat to mid Diamond is just a pool of one tricks that cannot do anything else.
Yo Homie 2 月 24 日 下午 11:42 
This is the answer

You can be GM/Cel with a 42% overall winrate so A LOT of people are able to get into the higher ranks and thats also when you stop gaining so much ranked points because in the earlier ranks you get much more for winning than losing but it starts to fall off near those ranks so a lot of players are stuck from all sorts of skill levels. Diamond feels like this games gold

The game is still kind of new so everything is still all over the place but one thing I noticed is that when I was in GM it had some of the worst players you can get because of their poor game play and attitude

The games stats system is also terrible because what really is the difference between elims and assists?
Bucky can solo kill 5 people and be at 5 elimination
Another DPS can shoot someone for only 50 dmg and it counts as an elim
Next thing you know the other DPS has more elims but isn't contributing as much as bucky

Yet i have seen people flame the bucky because of how useless the stats are. The only thing that matters is damage deaths and final hits. Any namor turret can just shoot someone for 25 dmg and have it count as a elim
Psychoglot 2 月 25 日 上午 12:08 
yeah dps players only know one cheesy af character if you're lucky and it always takes a third support because the other two healers are ♥♥♥♥♥♥ ahh
Noelemahc 2 月 25 日 上午 1:40 
I guess it's the fact that as long as you play LOTS of games you will advance more than you fall (esp with the Chrono Shield occasionally stopping your descent) so one trick pony players will rise until they run into bans on their character and/or the Peter Principle.

And that's why so many ill-behaved people end up in Plat, probably.
Piderman 2 月 25 日 上午 2:03 
引用自 ravioli
Platinum/Diamond is just by far the most obnoxious petty and spiteful ranks. Like mid Plat to mid Diamond is just a pool of one tricks that cannot do anything else.
I´m always wondering if people like these even have fun when playing the game.
引用自 Yo Homie
This is the answer

You can be GM/Cel with a 42% overall winrate so A LOT of people are able to get into the higher ranks and thats also when you stop gaining so much ranked points because in the earlier ranks you get much more for winning than losing but it starts to fall off near those ranks so a lot of players are stuck from all sorts of skill levels. Diamond feels like this games gold

The game is still kind of new so everything is still all over the place but one thing I noticed is that when I was in GM it had some of the worst players you can get because of their poor game play and attitude

The games stats system is also terrible because what really is the difference between elims and assists?
Bucky can solo kill 5 people and be at 5 elimination
Another DPS can shoot someone for only 50 dmg and it counts as an elim
Next thing you know the other DPS has more elims but isn't contributing as much as bucky

Yet i have seen people flame the bucky because of how useless the stats are. The only thing that matters is damage deaths and final hits. Any namor turret can just shoot someone for 25 dmg and have it count as a elim

I agree on the scoreboard. The higher you go the only players that really get "ace" are the dps players and it's really a entirely separate system from what actually has impact.

We're back to the whole "I'm gold dps" problem OW had in season 1. Meanwhile, he's just been shooting the tanks all game in the foot on Punisher.

You can do incredibly subtle things in this game that hard carry morons and the system will never reflect this. Rocket amping a bad Magneto ball, yet the whole team praises the 0 charge Mag ult because it gets 2 kills is a good example. Another would be A mantis player giving damage boost to an other wise garbage 7 game loss streak widow who is now a super carry in your game. Using the Thing's jump to save a dps from an Magneto ult, blocking a hel ult with strange, etc. etc. etc.

These are all gigantic plays that no one cares about, nor even notices. Because the game gives more incentive to a Spiderman hitting Q in the middle of 6 people and getting 3 kills. Even though the ult was braindead and it took a Mag shield, a Cloak Blind, and a double pocket on reaction for him to not turbo throw.
最後修改者:BIG D' williamson from mBHS; 2 月 25 日 上午 4:59
zopf76 ☭ 2 月 25 日 上午 5:21 
Engagement Optimized Matchmaking makes Ranked completely pointless.

...but makes the Cash register ring :lunar2019grinningpig:
Seeing threads like this makes me feel better about my Gold/Plat see-saw. Yeah, I'm a one-trick shooter noob, but at least I'm trying to learn new characters and not intentionally throwing matches because I think X character is so bad and an auto-loss pick.

In the next few days I'm going to work on optimizing crosshairsfor each character. Did it for Cloak & Dagger already, and the difference has been night and day. I've gone from getting scolded for "missing with auto-aim" to confidently hitting most of my shots.

If people are going to throw, you can't stop them. I just don't want to become a player people THINK is throwing just because I have a bad game every now and then or can't confidently role swap.
Shuyin178 2 月 25 日 上午 6:51 
This can actually be supported by Top 500 players on youtube doing "Guess Your Rank" videos. Sometimes they get them, sometimes they get it wrong and are shocked. It's entertaining and shows that Diamond+ is nearly all the same thing.
引用自 Shuyin178
This can actually be supported by Top 500 players on youtube doing "Guess Your Rank" videos. Sometimes they get them, sometimes they get it wrong and are shocked. It's entertaining and shows that Diamond+ is nearly all the same thing.

I honestly can't tell the difference between D2 and up unless the player is exceptional. And even then there are exceptional players in mid GM that just haven't grinded enough matches out in Solo Q

The average level of play in this game, even in the highest ranks, is just really really low
最後修改者:BIG D' williamson from mBHS; 2 月 25 日 上午 8:12
Yo Homie 2 月 25 日 下午 8:31 
引用自 roscosimmons
I agree on the scoreboard. The higher you go the only players that really get "ace" are the dps players and it's really a entirely separate system from what actually has impact.

We're back to the whole "I'm gold dps" problem OW had in season 1. Meanwhile, he's just been shooting the tanks all game in the foot on Punisher.

You can do incredibly subtle things in this game that hard carry morons and the system will never reflect this. Rocket amping a bad Magneto ball, yet the whole team praises the 0 charge Mag ult because it gets 2 kills is a good example. Another would be A mantis player giving damage boost to an other wise garbage 7 game loss streak widow who is now a super carry in your game. Using the Thing's jump to save a dps from an Magneto ult, blocking a hel ult with strange, etc. etc. etc.

These are all gigantic plays that no one cares about, nor even notices. Because the game gives more incentive to a Spiderman hitting Q in the middle of 6 people and getting 3 kills. Even though the ult was braindead and it took a Mag shield, a Cloak Blind, and a double pocket on reaction for him to not turbo throw.


100%. The stats are just awful and the fact people play spiderman pyslocke etc just to easily press Q with sometimes 0 counter play is just aids. Love the game but the dive heroes are literally playing a whole other game
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