Magik needs to have some animation cancels removed

[Mitrovarr]

She can hit you like 4-5 times in one second, and it's clearly more than the number of moves she actually does, which is like one.

It basically removes all counterplay for supports, which she kills instantly.

[glaphen]

Supports are already broken and auto win if any good against any dive in a 1 vs 1, and it shouldn't even be a 1 vs 1.
Luna just freeze her after she dashes, now a free kill for you.
Mantis the same but you can't even miss from bad aim.
Rocket just dash away and melt her with 385 headshot DPS.
Jeff just go under and you are immune to CC and can chase her down for a free kill.
Adam just soul bond or heal through it and you out DPS her after.
Invisible Woman just push her away and sit near your shield and she can't do anything to you.
Loki just rune or teleport or stealth and she can't do anything to you.
Cloak and Dagger just stealth after her dash.

[StValzy]

Play Loki. Cant die instantly if youre immortal

[Mitrovarr]

Originally posted by glaphen:

Supports are already broken and auto win if any good against any dive in a 1 vs 1, and it shouldn't even be a 1 vs 1.
Luna just freeze her after she dashes, now a free kill for you.
Mantis the same but you can't even miss from bad aim.
Rocket just dash away and melt her with 385 headshot DPS.
Jeff just go under and you are immune to CC and can chase her down for a free kill.
Adam just soul bond or heal through it and you out DPS her after.
Invisible Woman just push her away and sit near your shield and she can't do anything to you.
Loki just rune or teleport or stealth and she can't do anything to you.
Cloak and Dagger just stealth after her dash.

This is all good advice for regular Magik players, but the ones with the cancels I'm encountering now pretty much just instantly kill you on the first hit. It feels pretty unfair, especially because the Magik player is clearly getting the effect of moves they did not actually do. I don't feel unreasonable in thinking that if you cancel out a move to the point of not actually performing it, you shouldn't get the benefits.

Note that Magik can easily run you down so even a sleep/freeze doesn't escape, they can just keep chasing you.

[glaphen]

Originally posted by Mitrovarr:

Originally posted by glaphen:

Supports are already broken and auto win if any good against any dive in a 1 vs 1, and it shouldn't even be a 1 vs 1.
Luna just freeze her after she dashes, now a free kill for you.
Mantis the same but you can't even miss from bad aim.
Rocket just dash away and melt her with 385 headshot DPS.
Jeff just go under and you are immune to CC and can chase her down for a free kill.
Adam just soul bond or heal through it and you out DPS her after.
Invisible Woman just push her away and sit near your shield and she can't do anything to you.
Loki just rune or teleport or stealth and she can't do anything to you.
Cloak and Dagger just stealth after her dash.

This is all good advice for regular Magik players, but the ones with the cancels I'm encountering now pretty much just instantly kill you on the first hit. It feels pretty unfair, especially because the Magik player is clearly getting the effect of moves they did not actually do. I don't feel unreasonable in thinking that if you cancel out a move to the point of not actually performing it, you shouldn't get the benefits.

No one is even playing Magik without being able to animation cancel, it takes far more time to kill you even animation canceling than it takes to hit the one ability to stop her from killing you.

Originally posted by Mitrovarr:

Note that Magik can easily run you down so even a sleep/freeze doesn't escape, they can just keep chasing you.

You can just instant kill her, if you freeze headshot, headshot she's already dead.

[Mitrovarr]

You aren't going to be able to headshot a Magik twice after a freeze, they will portal immediately and start building shields.

[glaphen]

Originally posted by Mitrovarr:

You aren't going to be able to headshot a Magik twice after a freeze, they will portal immediately and start building shields.

You have .5 seconds to hit them without even removing the freeze for a free headshot or bodyshot if bad, then you can land one headshot for free no matter how bad, even if they survive you can just shoot at the end of the portal, even if they escape, who cares, they can't join the fight for awhile.

[ɸ It That Dwells ɸ]

She has one dash needed for the most reliable combo that has a long cooldown, and when she hits you with it, you're in prime position to headshot her. Any CC is a death sentence to Magik (assuming you can aim at all). Yes, she does not have the worst time at damaging two to three supports at once, but any level of proper coordination and you'll just kill her. Even with her "animation cancel", which is her only ranged attack and barely considered a cancel at all, that too has a very long cooldown, meaning she has to commit because she's stranded once she goes in.

Magik performs best with proper support, and that's when she can be relatively strong. So your job to counter her is to out-support her. If you don't, she's going to walk all over you and your team unless you're individually very good.
The difference between competent and lacking teams is night and day.

Specific characters that are really good at ruining Magik's day, in my experience, are Luna and Mantis. Both the freeze and sleep are devastating, and these are the supports that I die to the most, if ever. Once you realize how deliberate Magik's movements are you'll realize how predictable she can be, and that'll make hitting the freeze in particular so much easier.

If I see you out there and I dive you, give me your best. I want to get better too.

[Xyxx]

Supports that auto lock,self heal and run away. Are the very ones upset that someone has a big sword swings that they can't miss with.

Look in the mirror lol. Supports need to be balanced too.