Hardest role to carry/climb with?

[T0AD]

Which role do you all think has the most difficult time climbing ranks? Vanguards, Duelists, Strategists?

[jack][s_On]

The thought of playing even a single game of ranked fills my body to the brim with disgust. Quickplay is bad enough.

[doofus0510]

honestly i think dps or tank are the hardest as you can make it to a high rank, only healboting whereas dps and tank, if you aren't playing well the match is doomed unless your team makes up for you. for example if i played the thing and i wasn't always in the fight then i may have completely screwed over my team(which is why i like 2-2-2 as i don't have as much pressure tanking than with a 1-3-2 or 1-2-3)

[Karnarax]

Tank is the hardest. Too team dependant. Took me ages to reach Play on EU

[Floydius Prime]

Strat/Tanks. No Contest

[Tat011]

It's tank for sure, they do tickle damage on a meta that demands high burst dmg due to certain supports (you know which ones) having high healing numbers AND having a low skill floor while you're not even that tanky if you're not strange/magneto/defense Peny.
This is more of an opinion thing but they're also all incredibly unfun to play except for maybe Peny and even then it's when you're NOT playing defense maps and just standing there, it's not fun to just stand there and tickle the enemy, devs, please.

[glaphen]

DPS is hardest since you are the carry, if you suck you lose, supports are medium since you can still carry, if you suck it's probably more likely to lose than bad DPS, tank is easiest, since you are relying on the other 2 whether you win or lose, but you need to know how to tank to even be having a positive influence on the match. Climbing out of low ranks you can do on any role anyway since the players are so bad you can solo their team the majority of the time.

[Floydius Prime]

Originally posted by glaphen:

DPS is hardest since you are the carry, if you suck you lose, supports are medium since you can still carry, if you suck it's probably more likely to lose than bad DPS, tank is easiest, since you are relying on the other 2 whether you win or lose, but you need to know how to tank to even be having a positive influence on the match. Climbing out of low ranks you can do on any role anyway since the players are so bad you can solo their team the majority of the time.

You cant carry as a support lmao. I can tell you have never touched healer

[Tat011]

Originally posted by Chunky Cheese:

You cant carry as a support lmao. I can tell you have never touched healer

Peak support victim mentality to still pretend to be the weak role even after we've been in a support meta so oppressive everyone's been complaining about it and the devs have directly addressed it on their latest blog.
As a support main, support is the strongest role AND the lowest skill role.

[glaphen]

Originally posted by Chunky Cheese:

Originally posted by glaphen:

DPS is hardest since you are the carry, if you suck you lose, supports are medium since you can still carry, if you suck it's probably more likely to lose than bad DPS, tank is easiest, since you are relying on the other 2 whether you win or lose, but you need to know how to tank to even be having a positive influence on the match. Climbing out of low ranks you can do on any role anyway since the players are so bad you can solo their team the majority of the time.

You cant carry as a support lmao. I can tell you have never touched healer

Supports literally all do nearly the same damage as DPS, if you are any good you are getting kills still, and be able to keep yourself alive to keep your team alive. Pure DPS like Mantis have really no difference even, 280 headshot DPS with no falloff, there's like no DPS that even has that, some have higher but they have falloff, and yet she can keep her team healed at the same time.

[Unknown]

I imagine it depends on what rank you're trying to climb. I doubt there's one consistently the easiest/hardest across all.

[Floydius Prime]

Originally posted by glaphen:

Originally posted by Chunky Cheese:

You cant carry as a support lmao. I can tell you have never touched healer

Supports literally all do nearly the same damage as DPS, if you are any good you are getting kills still, and be able to keep yourself alive to keep your team alive. Pure DPS like Mantis have really no difference even, 280 headshot DPS with no falloff, there's like no DPS that even has that, some have higher but they have falloff, and yet she can keep her team healed at the same time.

No offensive ults, minus rockets, and for every kill you try to secure, thats loss of heals. Dps have kits to land kills or to evade, as well as have offensive ults. You have such an easier time to secure space or take ground as a dps. With tanks you have the hp, but no real damage to follow up. Supports are basically glass cannons with very little evasive maneuvers when overwhelmed/dove on

[glaphen]

Originally posted by Chunky Cheese:

Originally posted by glaphen:

Supports literally all do nearly the same damage as DPS, if you are any good you are getting kills still, and be able to keep yourself alive to keep your team alive. Pure DPS like Mantis have really no difference even, 280 headshot DPS with no falloff, there's like no DPS that even has that, some have higher but they have falloff, and yet she can keep her team healed at the same time.

No offensive ults, minus rockets, and for every kill you try to secure, thats loss of heals. Dps have kits to land kills or to evade, as well as have offensive ults. You have such an easier time to secure space or take ground as a dps. With tanks you have the hp, but no real damage to follow up. Supports are basically glass cannons with very little evasive maneuvers when overwhelmed/dove on

You don't need healing 24/7, bad healers are only healing, support ultimates are better than offensive ultimates in the first place, if they don't use one then the DPS can just run down the team without an ultimate. Supports all have far higher survivability than DPS, except the 2 tanks Iron Fist and Mr. Fantastic, maybe Scarlet Witch who trades high DPS for that, they aren't glass at all, they all have a minimum of 30 HPS and some other survival aspect, and none are lacking in damage at all.

[Floydius Prime]

Originally posted by Tat011:

Originally posted by Chunky Cheese:

You cant carry as a support lmao. I can tell you have never touched healer

Peak support victim mentality to still pretend to be the weak role even after we've been in a support meta so oppressive everyone's been complaining about it and the devs have directly addressed it on their latest blog.
As a support main, support is the strongest role AND the lowest skill role.

Stop parroting phrases you saw online. And yes, they had to nerf because of fast ult regens, yet moon knights is still just as high, so is groots. And I doubt you are

[Mister Sir]

Assuming you are good with the role? Then I do say probably healer because in the end if your team aint doing ♥♥♥♥, you gonna lose cause regardless of how you are doing. It works well on bronze and even silver I guess but over all your ults is about saving the team and if the team refusing to make it worth it, then it's gg.

Even bad healers heal, despite some terrible games that we get, most healers heal even if a little. With dps you got carry potontial cause killing enemy team wins you the game. With tanks you can 1 v 1 nearly any other role and got game changing ults like eye, that can wipe enemy team. With healers you really wont 1 v 1 a tank when both of you are full hp, even if you are better, so when you are being dived and no one doing anything about it, thats again, a gg.

[Tat011]

Originally posted by Chunky Cheese:

No offensive ults, minus rockets,

Jeff
Also calling supports weak due to to having as many offensive ults when they're the strongest ults in the game (for the most part) is... puzzling

Originally posted by Chunky Cheese:

and for every kill you try to secure, thats loss of heals.

huh? Is there even a support besides cloak & dagger and luna where this is true? every other suppport either has a separate cooldown for heals or deploys heals that stay up for a while.