The smurf problem has grown exponentially

[It's bread.]

Don't let anyone gaslight you into thinking it's not. EVERY match I've had tonight I've had an obvious smurf just straight up destroying my team.. It's never been this bad. This will kill the game FYI for new players if you don't put in a proper MMR system.

[Purple Monkey]

Smurfing and cheating are out of control.
Both are problems caused by free accounts.

[Lewis]

Add placement matches and the issue of smurfing will drop significantly and smurfs will only consist of only the people who want to stomp out newbies. The players trying to learn new characters without throwing on their main account will be able to play placement matches with the character theyre learning to get an accurate rank instead of starting from Bronze.

[reidjbuckley]

or they can just play quickplay making a new account to learn a new character is just sad

[reidjbuckley]

Originally posted by Lewis:

Add placement matches and the issue of smurfing will drop significantly and smurfs will only consist of only the people who want to stomp out newbies. The players trying to learn new characters without throwing on their main account will be able to play placement matches with the character theyre learning to get an accurate rank instead of starting from Bronze.

[R for Reload]

Originally posted by Purple Monkey:

Smurfing and cheating are out of control.
Both are problems caused by free accounts.

Well smurfing isn't against the rules
And as a man who smurfs
I only do it to play other roles
But other people do it to learn new characters.
I think the worst offenders are people who party up with a multiple smurfs.

[R for Reload]

Originally posted by reidjbuckley:

or they can just play quickplay making a new account to learn a new character is just sad

No quick match is an awful place to learn, QM does not reflect real gameplay.
You can't learn hulk in QM for example.

[R for Reload]

Originally posted by Lewis:

Add placement matches and the issue of smurfing will drop significantly and smurfs will only consist of only the people who want to stomp out newbies. The players trying to learn new characters without throwing on their main account will be able to play placement matches with the character theyre learning to get an accurate rank instead of starting from Bronze.

I agree, I really wish the game had placement matches.

But they would have to rework the ranked system as a whole because you can't have inflated rank points and a placement system.

[Purple Monkey]

Originally posted by R for Reload:

Originally posted by Purple Monkey:

Smurfing and cheating are out of control.
Both are problems caused by free accounts.

Well smurfing isn't against the rules
And as a man who smurfs
I only do it to play other roles
But other people do it to learn new characters.
I think the worst offenders are people who party up with a multiple smurfs.

I never said it was against the rules, did I?
It's scumbaggery no matter how you try to justify it.

[ttv/Hempocratys]

I ran into the most egregious example of it tonight. Had 5 sub level 15 accounts in the same match, they were all in the same squad. Its pretty lame running into grouped up smurfs. If theres 5 players who are all GM+ on main, but, theyre smurfing, it ruins games all the way up.

[yoo]

Originally posted by Hempocratys:

I ran into the most egregious example of it tonight. Had 5 sub level 15 accounts in the same match, they were all in the same squad. Its pretty lame running into grouped up smurfs. If theres 5 players who are all GM+ on main, but, theyre smurfing, it ruins games all the way up.

were you grouped up too?

[R for Reload]

Originally posted by Purple Monkey:

Originally posted by R for Reload:

Well smurfing isn't against the rules
And as a man who smurfs
I only do it to play other roles
But other people do it to learn new characters.
I think the worst offenders are people who party up with a multiple smurfs.

I never said it was against the rules, did I?
It's scumbaggery no matter how you try to justify it.

I wasn't saying you said it was I was more so saying that's a big factor to why there are so many.
I don't like smurfing but I hit diamond already so I don't feel as bad.

[Captain Blue]

Originally posted by R for Reload:

Originally posted by reidjbuckley:

or they can just play quickplay making a new account to learn a new character is just sad

No quick match is an awful place to learn, QM does not reflect real gameplay.
You can't learn hulk in QM for example.

How is playing below your rank a good place to learn? Since tactics that works on low skill players will not work on higher skill players.

So this is just a made up excuse to stomp newbs.

[R for Reload]

Originally posted by Captain Blue:

Originally posted by R for Reload:

No quick match is an awful place to learn, QM does not reflect real gameplay.
You can't learn hulk in QM for example.

How is playing below your rank a good place to learn? Since tactics that works on low skill players will not work on higher skill players.

So this is just a made up excuse to stomp newbs.

Because people actually attempt to win and have some sort of formation in ranked
regardless of rank
while in QM they don't
QM and ranked play out differently regardless of rank.

[Captain Blue]

Originally posted by R for Reload:

Originally posted by Captain Blue:

How is playing below your rank a good place to learn? Since tactics that works on low skill players will not work on higher skill players.

So this is just a made up excuse to stomp newbs.

Because people actually attempt to win and have some sort of formation in ranked
regardless of rank
while in QM they don't
QM and ranked play out differently regardless of rank.

Not even true... All I get in Quick Play are cheater bullies who stomp you to pieces every game or the magical come back games then you get thrown a free win against bots.

I barely seen any difference in Quick Play to Plat games. They're both filled with cheaters. The only difference in QP to Ranked is that people will play 6 DPS and not care at all.

You can learn a character in training. Your pre-existing knowledge of how people play should transferable enough that you can apply that knowledge to any character and be decent enough after a few games. Overall tactics and positioning doesn't change You going to use the same tactics for all dive characters, or all tanks / dps and supports. You just make adjustments here or there based on their effective ranges which you can learn n training.

[Nxce]

Spending money should be mandatory, atleast for ranked.