Best Counter to Human Torch?

[RawwkinGrimmie64]

Hey, all. I just played the new season updates yesterday, and while I love it, I'm having a lot of trouble figuring out how to counter the new trend of Moon Knight/Namor/Human Torch. Peaky, long distance damage seems to be on the rise.

It feels like there's a lot of people running some combo of the three, and always with the fireman involved, so I'm trying to figure out if anyone has tips or strategies that can counter him. Not a specific hero, but basic gameplay tips. It seems rather difficult to counter a flyer who has the ability to turn the ground you're standing on and around into an inescapable AOE damage field, especially as a Strategist trying to keep everyone else alive.

Cover feels useless against all flyers because they can easily find a weak point in or ensure you're blocked from your own teammates as they're getting pummeled. Fight back with long range weapons (if you even have an option)? You'll never win, and likely lose. Your AOE heal zones are now a massive fire hazard and rendered useless.

Is there anything that I can do myself to snuff out the Torch, or do I need to rely on other roles to take him out? If the answer is "Learn Invisible Woman for the forcefield pull down and Torch team-up" then I suppose I can try, but again, looking for general tips that aren't hero specific.

[76561199816511545]

Ok so two strategist are technically a counter pick to not only flyers but spiderman. Mantis and Luna both can crit on headshots and both have stuns. So headshot stun headshot and finish.

[Mellanie94]

play loki or jeff, water your ally easly and spit water bal to kill human torch, their attacks and heal goes pretty far than the other healers. or summon a scarlet witch or an iron man to kill the human torch.

[Sheiriff Woody]

İlk olarak RawwkinGrimmie64 tarafından gönderildi:

Hey, all. I just played the new season updates yesterday, and while I love it, I'm having a lot of trouble figuring out how to counter the new trend of Moon Knight/Namor/Human Torch. Peaky, long distance damage seems to be on the rise.

It feels like there's a lot of people running some combo of the three, and always with the fireman involved, so I'm trying to figure out if anyone has tips or strategies that can counter him. Not a specific hero, but basic gameplay tips. It seems rather difficult to counter a flyer who has the ability to turn the ground you're standing on and around into an inescapable AOE damage field, especially as a Strategist trying to keep everyone else alive.

Cover feels useless against all flyers because they can easily find a weak point in or ensure you're blocked from your own teammates as they're getting pummeled. Fight back with long range weapons (if you even have an option)? You'll never win, and likely lose. Your AOE heal zones are now a massive fire hazard and rendered useless.

Is there anything that I can do myself to snuff out the Torch, or do I need to rely on other roles to take him out? If the answer is "Learn Invisible Woman for the forcefield pull down and Torch team-up" then I suppose I can try, but again, looking for general tips that aren't hero specific.

Black Widow can counter Human Torch very easily. The Dude moves slow and dosnet have that janky movment like Iron Man and Storm. Been Criting him non stop.

[HighLanderPony]

A wet blanket.

[Echorion]

As a Loki/Sue main I love all these flyers everywhere tbh.

Loki I am just blasting them with a 3 clone volley and one volley forces them to retreat and 3 usually kills them. They don't get healed as often by healers because they are harder to track so they are easier to kill generally; especially johnny and storm who don't have the escape that Iron Man does.

OP you say you don't want counter hero picks but like, if you want to climb in ranks you will want to learn to swap heroes from time to time.

General gameplay tips are move with cover not out far from walls and in the open; attack back with ranged attacks when you can because they have a harder time getting healed; use stuns/grabs/etc to lock them down to earth.

[Papz]

A wet noodle.Human candle is trash

[76561199828609912]

why do u need to counter the tickle monster

[Arc]

Go human torch yourself or storm
be a meta slave

[Loken]

A gun. ranged damage.

[Gabe Ate My Zombies]

Seconding Widow. I'm finally going to get to Lord this patch with her since all the BP/Spidey one-tricks are using him instead of diving me constantly.

[Mitrovarr]

İlk olarak Volorath tarafından gönderildi:

Ok so two strategist are technically a counter pick to not only flyers but spiderman. Mantis and Luna both can crit on headshots and both have stuns. So headshot stun headshot and finish.

Ok, let's not belabor the obvious - you are not going to freeze a flier with a working brain cell in their head, ever. It's a very slow projectile.

[R for Reload]

He's not that strong imo.
but there's some really easy counters, Hitscan + Ironman.
Ironman hard counters.

[Vexille]

İlk olarak R for Reload tarafından gönderildi:

He's not that strong imo.
but there's some really easy counters, Hitscan + Ironman.
Ironman hard counters.

Yea Iron man eats human torch alive. It's almost unfair.

Just hit him with the uni-beam (especially now that its buffed) and torch just falls apart.

Do be careful though, they'll get wise to you and try to position closer. You don't want to be up close since torch's attack is like a shotgun.

[Grarorigragra]

star lord go brrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr

[Sex Luthor]

Namor babbyyyyyy