Flying hero meta is awful

[Serion15]

Johnny/Storm meta has already made me want to quit Rivals and go back to OW. By far the least amount of fun I have had in games so far.

Also... the amount of ground clutter now from Torch is awful. Literally graphics everywhere. Huge fail in hero design.

[Ricky Spanish]

human torch is easy to push, his range attacks start outside melee range, get close enough, he aint damaging you

[LordSlug]

my gripe is why did they add one tank that isnt great imo and ANOTHER DUELIST!? there is already a problem of too many people choosing duelist. hookup healers and tanks gah dammn

[doofus0510]

Publicado originalmente por LordSlug:

my gripe is why did they add one tank that isnt great imo and ANOTHER DUELIST!? there is already a problem of too many people choosing duelist. hookup healers and tanks gah dammn

you can't really complain about human torch being a dps when we got the fantastic 4 reveal but i get the desire for more support and tank

[D'Spyse]

All the idiots who constantly parrot the "skill issue" crap fail to realize that for the most part people on your team will completely ignore flying heroes unless they're shouted at multiple times to go after them. Flying heroes are a huge problem for people like myself who main Strategist (Invisible Woman) because I don't have the range to effectively counter them, and my teammates who do just completely ignore them. There needs to be less flying heroes in this game, not more. They take out supports in the back way too easily, and are ignored by teammates who can effectively deal with them.

[D'Spyse]

Publicado originalmente por X Zero Mal:

A good Widow can keep flyers at bay. Now that she has 15 rounds your aim can kinda be spammy when shooting.

I wish though patch 1.5 changed her from 8 to 10 rounds with a measly +10 to headshot damage. That would of done wonders for her.

This is a problem though. Yes, Widow can deal with flyers, just like Hela, Punisher, etc. but WILL she deal with them is the issue. Players get tunnel-visioned way too easily in this game and tend to completely ignore anything not right in front of them. Developers cannot rely on the community to come up with counters to certain characters because for the most part the community will not step up and actually implement those counters.

[X Mal]

Publicado originalmente por Mistress H8:

Publicado originalmente por X Zero Mal:

A good Widow can keep flyers at bay. Now that she has 15 rounds your aim can kinda be spammy when shooting.

I wish though patch 1.5 changed her from 8 to 10 rounds with a measly +10 to headshot damage. That would of done wonders for her.

This is a problem though. Yes, Widow can deal with flyers, just like Hela, Punisher, etc. but WILL she deal with them is the issue. Players get tunnel-visioned way too easily in this game and tend to completely ignore anything not right in front of them. Developers cannot rely on the community to come up with counters to certain characters because for the most part the community will not step up and actually implement those counters.

Storm is cool that she is a booster that buffs teammates. Her primary attack could be weaker though as the shots can pierce through unlimited amount of targets and gaining her Ultimate is super quick because of all the "tapping" she does to enemy players with her kit. Her primary defiantly needs to be weaker.

Ironman's Unibeam should of never been changed from 120s to 140s. But its not really much of a difference when it comes to KOing someone. And he gets hard stuck when using it so its whatever.

Human Torches kit is fine. His primary attack Fire Cluster works like a shotgun that does 7 dmg a pellet. So max dmg per a hit is like 63 if all pellet land. The problem with him is his rate of fire and that his shots do head damage. Easy fix. Reduce his recharge rate on his primary when all flame icons are depleted. And remove his shots from scoring headshots and leave them as a base attack. --- This would not ruin Torch as he already has tools with his fire walls and igniting them for extra damage using his Flaming Meteor ability and filling the role for territory control. But those abilities get passed up on to be used more often do to his primary attack being just a little too good.

The goal for Flying Characters need to be more unique from one another instead of all just being carbon copy sky campers that just satellite strike spam from above.

[Steve]

Publicado originalmente por Mistress H8:

Developers cannot rely on the community to come up with counters to certain characters because for the most part the community will not step up and actually implement those counters.

It's a team-based shooter, so, yeah, they will continue to design with the team in mind. Otherwise, it becomes a single-player title.

Fortnite already exists.

[rygar8bit]

Flying heroes can't do crap about a Cloak & Dagger just get locked on and deleted.

[X Mal]

Publicado originalmente por rygar8bit:

Flying heroes can't do crap about a Cloak & Dagger just get locked on and deleted.

Well it never hurts to better balance the game. Thats not to say that CnD is not unbalanced. They certainly are. Homing and Autolock Attack Streams are certainly not balanced and cheapen the game.

Dagger's damage output should be less since shes a healer or Cloak's range should be reduced.

[Millertyme]

Publicado originalmente por Serion15:

Johnny/Storm meta has already made me want to quit Rivals and go back to OW. By far the least amount of fun I have had in games so far.

Also... the amount of ground clutter now from Torch is awful. Literally graphics everywhere. Huge fail in hero design.

This player isn't even Diamond. There is no storm/torch meta cause storm is almost always banned and good players know torch is bad. Have fun going back to Overwatch and playing your bronze ranked games. I know you're bronze cause you're not Diamond here. I'm Grand Master here and Gold in Overwatch.

[Womens Deodorant]

Torch sucks as a hero but the team up with storm ult is OP. Storm is always banned anyway.

[bunnypilled]

i hate it. even worse when no dps switches to counter them and they pound the hell out of us.

[bunnypilled]

Publicado originalmente por Mistress H8:

All the idiots who constantly parrot the "skill issue" crap fail to realize that for the most part people on your team will completely ignore flying heroes unless they're shouted at multiple times to go after them. Flying heroes are a huge problem for people like myself who main Strategist (Invisible Woman) because I don't have the range to effectively counter them, and my teammates who do just completely ignore them. There needs to be less flying heroes in this game, not more. They take out supports in the back way too easily, and are ignored by teammates who can effectively deal with them.

i feel you. it’s not as much of a problem in plat but qp is awful when you get crap dps like that