Spiderman is not a hard hero.

[Nydas]

His kit depends on knowing maps and having an ounce of game sense. Thats it. And considering no one knew these at launch, everyone just jumped on the bandwagon of "this heros hard"

Literally none of Spidermans abilities need aim to hit. Even his right click, his most aim intensive ability, has a very generous hitbox. His E has an even more generous hitbox, and makes his combo brain dead. Lets not even get started on the fact that an UPPERCUT is an AOE with upwards of 4meter range.

And of course his ult is literally the most brain dead in the game. Press q and get massive overhealth, and kill anyone thats not a tank. Oh and those tanks will be CCed, so they also die.

[Phishfood]

I'm sure you'll hit celestial in short time then.

[PVT.Blueberry]

i dont even play him and i know he takes skill just from his combo game.

[Nydas]

Originally posted by PVT.Blueberry:

i dont even play him and i know he takes skill just from his combo game.

His combo really doesnt take that much skill. Not anymore than any other combo in this game. And unlike every other character that has to dive in and committee, if spiderman messes up, hes instantly on the other side of the map. Such skill!

[Ronin Gamer]

But he is fragile, and if you don't have the mobility down, along with map layout, yeah you are going to get blasted. He's actually not hard to kill, just hard to hit with anyone that knows what they are doing.

[Brandon]

so who is a hard hero then?

[Monkeyhunter2142]

Playing him at a basic level isn't that hard I agree. He does have the highest skill ceiling.

[Nydas]

Originally posted by Brandon:

so who is a hard hero then?

As far as DPS? Widow, easily.

[glaphen]

The combo you are talking about can't even one shot 250 HP characters without a Venom, and you have a year to react to the icon showing you are webbed and the red web attached to you to know he is coming and the exact direction he is coming from.

[RobAlca]

a good spiderman will mess uor game

[KaZudra]

The Speed buff makes him annoyingly hard to land a shot on him.

That's the best word for Spider-Man, Annoying. You go in do something til you ult but it's okay, as long as you have movement down you're probably not going to face punishment, It's to the point now where Anti-Dive Supports are only deterrents at best.

I can play 2 games have have Spider-Man to a competent level.

Honestly the hardest DPS is Black Panther mainly because BP is terrible.

[Mitrovarr]

Originally posted by Nydas:

Originally posted by PVT.Blueberry:

i dont even play him and i know he takes skill just from his combo game.

His combo really doesnt take that much skill. Not anymore than any other combo in this game. And unlike every other character that has to dive in and committee, if spiderman messes up, hes instantly on the other side of the map. Such skill!

A Spider-Man who botches combos and runs away over and over provides almost no value to a team. That's the kind of meme Spider-Man player you see in low ranks who goes like 9-2 in a game where 20 kills is average because they can't get anything done outside their ult. Just because you don't die doesn't mean you're useful as a DPS.

Good Spider-Man players in high rank have great skill. Aside from knowing combos, most of them also excel at 3d movement and are also excellent shots. You can interrupt or rescue someone from their combo and they'll still chase you down and kill you quite often, and they can fight outside their combo competently if they need to.