lets just be honest. if this game takes "skills" it would use SBMM instead of EOMM

[Meausterbater.xD]

the mechanics in game require the whole team to be fully "engaged" according to their roles . not to be fully "skilled" .

[ciswhiteheterosexualmalenumber2]

the misconception here is that you assume skill is entirely based on one's potential and not their execution. Take aimbotters for example, landing only headshots as punisher will obviously give you a leg up in the competition, because your potential is at its best it possibly can be. However, you often see while spectating aimbotters, especially in lower ranks, that their execution, their positioning, their understanding of the mechanics is solely lacking, and therefore they do not do as well as they could.

The game is still skill based, a spiderman with years of practice in shooter games, assassin games, fighting games, the spiderman games will have an advantage over a toddler, but if that toddler is terrorizing the backline like a flank should while the experience player is trying to fight the thing in their frontline, than their performance will likely be closer than should be expected.

[CLUTCH]

ZZzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

You will always be bronze. Let it go.

[Corso]

Originally posted by Meausterbater.xD:

the mechanics in game require the whole team to be fully "engaged" according to their roles . not to be fully "skilled" .

measure skill for us in a hero shooter 6v6 gametype please.
there are many factors.
placement. engagement. landing hits. landing skills. executing combos. placing heals on the right heroes at the right time. utilising team-up skills. using ultimates at right time.
that's just for an individual. now, if you're playing on a dedicated ranked team, ie. you and your buds and want to climb together, now add in organization, communication, team-work, etc.
what are we even talking about here?
NO POINTS FOR YOU.

[Meausterbater.xD]

Originally posted by CLUTCH:

ZZzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

You will always be bronze. Let it go.

whats your id . let me add you, im sure your rank is below me. come . then we can
1v1 in range .

[CLUTCH]

Originally posted by Meausterbater.xD:

Originally posted by CLUTCH:

ZZzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

You will always be bronze. Let it go.

whats your id . let me add you, im sure your rank is below me. come . then we can
1v1 in range .

sure. like i care i uninstalled.. im sure you really great.

eomm beat me btw

then we can 1v1

stay gold ponyboy!!

or is it bronze?

[CLUTCH]

Originally posted by Meausterbater.xD:

Originally posted by CLUTCH:

ZZzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

You will always be bronze. Let it go.

whats your id . let me add you, im sure your rank is below me. come . then we can
1v1 in range .

And we just played and he lost 20-0

Figures people like you talk trash...

[Meausterbater.xD]

Originally posted by CLUTCH:

Originally posted by Meausterbater.xD:

whats your id . let me add you, im sure your rank is below me. come . then we can
1v1 in range .

And we just played and he lost 20-0

Figures people like you talk trash...

Originally posted by CLUTCH:

Originally posted by Meausterbater.xD:

whats your id . let me add you, im sure your rank is below me. come . then we can
1v1 in range .

And we just played and he lost 20-0

Figures people like you talk trash...

bro u the one who talk trash with no balls to prove lol. come give me your id and prove your the one whose rank is below me lmao

[CLUTCH]

Originally posted by Meausterbater.xD:

Originally posted by CLUTCH:

And we just played and he lost 20-0

Figures people like you talk trash...

Originally posted by CLUTCH:

And we just played and he lost 20-0

Figures people like you talk trash...

bro u the one who talk trash with no balls to prove lol. come give me your id and prove your the one whose rank is below me lmao

You already lost br0 1v1 20-0

Do better next time. And learn to quote. You play like you quote on steam forums.

[Meausterbater.xD]

Originally posted by CLUTCH:

Originally posted by Meausterbater.xD:

bro u the one who talk trash with no balls to prove lol. come give me your id and prove your the one whose rank is below me lmao

You already lost br0 1v1 20-0

Do better next time. And learn to quote. You play like you quote on steam forums.

sad. 300 hours in game but no balls at all . must be a female or something xD.

[Meausterbater.xD]

Originally posted by ciswhiteheterosexualmalenumber2:

the misconception here is that you assume skill is entirely based on one's potential and not their execution. Take aimbotters for example, landing only headshots as punisher will obviously give you a leg up in the competition, because your potential is at its best it possibly can be. However, you often see while spectating aimbotters, especially in lower ranks, that their execution, their positioning, their understanding of the mechanics is solely lacking, and therefore they do not do as well as they could.

The game is still skill based, a spiderman with years of practice in shooter games, assassin games, fighting games, the spiderman games will have an advantage over a toddler, but if that toddler is terrorizing the backline like a flank should while the experience player is trying to fight the thing in their frontline, than their performance will likely be closer than should be expected.

nah unless you can prove that you are not below diamond / GM to compliment your logical argument.

[Meausterbater.xD]

Originally posted by Corso:

Originally posted by Meausterbater.xD:

the mechanics in game require the whole team to be fully "engaged" according to their roles . not to be fully "skilled" .

measure skill for us in a hero shooter 6v6 gametype please.
there are many factors.
placement. engagement. landing hits. landing skills. executing combos. placing heals on the right heroes at the right time. utilising team-up skills. using ultimates at right time.
that's just for an individual. now, if you're playing on a dedicated ranked team, ie. you and your buds and want to climb together, now add in organization, communication, team-work, etc.
what are we even talking about here?
NO POINTS FOR YOU.

give ID and prove your rank is not below diamond 2 / GM 3 .

[CLUTCH]

Originally posted by Meausterbater.xD:

Originally posted by CLUTCH:

You already lost br0 1v1 20-0

Do better next time. And learn to quote. You play like you quote on steam forums.

sad. 300 hours in game but no balls at all . must be a female or something xD.

why do you keep posting when you lost?

maybe one of your friends can try.

wait...you dont have any.

[=EBS= WarGanisM]

Unpopular opinion, but hero shooters inherently are not serious competitive or Esports. Ever since Overwatch, and the mega money of brainwashing youngsters with the kool aid and streamers to promote esports. Now Ranked Competitive dominated by sweats and Try hards persuing colour schemes is at the forefront. Rather than actual fun. Yes it's PvP, and competitive in nature to win, but this whole Ranking thing ruins this format. Hence why games like TF2 etc never had it. This is a modern problem, created. Battlefields etc don't have this. I really wish this would go back to the days where Rankings etc were done by managed by outside communities, and not in games totally not suited for it.

Popular it may be....but really its all pretend.

[Roland]

If people would read the ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ paper on EOMM they would know that skill is one of the factors it uses to determine who you should be paired with/against.
https://web.cs.ucla.edu/~yzsun/papers/WWW17Chen_EOMM.pdf

[Steve]

Originally posted by Roland:

If people would read the ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ paper on EOMM they would know that skill is one of the factors it uses to determine who you should be paired with/against.
https://web.cs.ucla.edu/~yzsun/papers/WWW17Chen_EOMM.pdf

Oh, no, you can give them any resource on the subject and they'll just repurpose whatever they read to somehow support the argument in their own mind. I actually showed some of them examples of what metrics get used for an EOMM algo, and they ended up identifying common SBMM components as the "problem".

There is a very small faction of people who are intractable on the subject. They firmly believe it's a psyop.