get them out of here pls! (smurf stacks )

[STARFOX]

when are they going to fix the problem of 3-6 stack smurf teams running wild in comp ? makes this game just not worth playing at all. and add smurfing to the report option.

[Steve]

How do you fix it? Report one, another 5 get made. Enforcement would be spending all of its time on just smurfing, without doing anything meaningful about the issue.

What is your plan to fix the smurfing problem, on this or any other F2P PvP title?

[You'reJustBad]

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How do you fix it? Report one, another 5 get made. Enforcement would be spending all of its time on just smurfing, without doing anything meaningful about the issue.

What is your plan to fix the smurfing problem, on this or any other F2P PvP title?

ban them, and their main, and any other account associated with their I.P address/MAC address

[Steve]

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Publicado originalmente por Steve:

How do you fix it? Report one, another 5 get made. Enforcement would be spending all of its time on just smurfing, without doing anything meaningful about the issue.

What is your plan to fix the smurfing problem, on this or any other F2P PvP title?

ban them, and their main, and any other account associated with their I.P address/MAC address

You don't know who their main is, they just get a new account, and spoof the IP/HWID.

Next move.

[You'reJustBad]

Publicado originalmente por Steve:

Publicado originalmente por You'reJustBad:

ban them, and their main, and any other account associated with their I.P address/MAC address

You don't know who their main is, they just get a new account, and spoof the IP/HWID.

Next move.

well... they are unlikely to have Spoofed that and thus their main is already tied to that HWID/IP so it gets banned straight off

and, they're unlikely to go through the trouble of purchasing a spoofer or doing it themselves manually

so it solves 90% of the problem

and spoofers fall under the category of Cheats, so then you ban them for cheating when you find them again

[Steve]

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Publicado originalmente por Steve:

You don't know who their main is, they just get a new account, and spoof the IP/HWID.

Next move.

well... they are unlikely to have Spoofed that and thus their main is already tied to that HWID/IP so it gets banned straight off

and, they're unlikely to go through the trouble of purchasing a spoofer or doing it themselves manually

so it solves 90% of the problem

and spoofers fall under the category of Cheats, so then you ban them for cheating when you find them again

Except it solves nothing and never has, otherwise, everyone would do it.

Spoofers mean you don't get the cheats' IP/HWID, and cheats can do this easily and for free.

You have solved nothing yet. Keep trying?

[You'reJustBad]

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Publicado originalmente por You'reJustBad:

well... they are unlikely to have Spoofed that and thus their main is already tied to that HWID/IP so it gets banned straight off

and, they're unlikely to go through the trouble of purchasing a spoofer or doing it themselves manually

so it solves 90% of the problem

and spoofers fall under the category of Cheats, so then you ban them for cheating when you find them again

Except it solves nothing and never has, otherwise, everyone would do it.

Spoofers mean you don't get the cheats' IP/HWID, and cheats can do this easily and for free.

You have solved nothing yet. Keep trying?

well you obviously just don't want the problem solved because you're a smurf, so... yeah there is that

[Mitrovarr]

Publicado originalmente por Steve:

How do you fix it? Report one, another 5 get made. Enforcement would be spending all of its time on just smurfing, without doing anything meaningful about the issue.

What is your plan to fix the smurfing problem, on this or any other F2P PvP title?

Make it take more work and time to get into competitive for the first time.

Like require level 20, not 10, and also require something like 20-50 QP match wins and maybe proficiency levels on a few characters.

Doesn't make it impossible, but makes it more irritating and obnoxious to do it so there will be less.

[IndianaJones]

Probably never.

[Steve]

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Except it solves nothing and never has, otherwise, everyone would do it.

Spoofers mean you don't get the cheats' IP/HWID, and cheats can do this easily and for free.

You have solved nothing yet. Keep trying?

well you obviously just don't want the problem solved because you're a smurf, so... yeah there is that

I have two accounts -- this one and my comp. That's it.

I'd love to see the problem solved, because most of your smurfers are account sellers and I hate that. But here's the thing -- there's no reliable way to solve that.

Charge a sticker price? Account sellers just add that to the purchase cost of the account.

HWID? Spoofed.

IP? Spoofed, and sometimes weaponized (by spoofing someone else's IP and then cheating).

One account per person? Unenforceable.

So if you got a solution, I'm not the only one who's all ears. Any shooter developer would love to hear it. But it actually has to be a solution. It has to work and be effective and enforceable.

It's nowhere near as easy as just snapping your fingers and saying "smurfs be gone".

[Steve]

Publicado originalmente por Mitrovarr:

Publicado originalmente por Steve:

How do you fix it? Report one, another 5 get made. Enforcement would be spending all of its time on just smurfing, without doing anything meaningful about the issue.

What is your plan to fix the smurfing problem, on this or any other F2P PvP title?

Make it take more work and time to get into competitive for the first time.

Like require level 20, not 10, and also require something like 20-50 QP match wins and maybe proficiency levels on a few characters.

Doesn't make it impossible, but makes it more irritating and obnoxious to do it so there will be less.

This just fuels more pre-leveled account sales and discourages legitimate players. It's not a problem with an easy solution. If there were an easy solution, every shooter dev would be using it.