The Lack of Balance Is Starting To Turn Me Away

[Borko]

Iron Fist obliterating every role in the game, especially Strategists, and backlines every match, becoming immortal while holding right click and gaining armor, and almost always getting away. There is no one in the game that can counter him and his attacks go through shields like Dr Strange's and Magneto's. He also magnetizes to you so if you try to get away with a dash, a grapple, or a boost into the air from any character, he will still magnetize to you, and he has THREE jumps.
Not even Iron Man at the top of the skybox can avoid him. Rocket dashing twice straight up can't avoid him. Dr Strange boosting up into the air can't avoid him. Nobody can.
Iron Fist is in literally every match, and I mean LITERALLY.

Jeff eating the entire team with a near instant undodgeable ult and then jumping off a cliff to kill them all. EVERY Jeff does this and it happens multiple times a match. There are a LOT of Jeff players playing him purely so they can do this.

Wanda has just way too much in her kit and her range is ridiculous for what it is.

Hawkeye.

Storm is almost completely useless and almost nobody uses her.

Strategists are extremely frustrating to play across the board because of the high mobility in this game and how easily Duelists can slaughter them without them being able to do much about it.
Almost nobody wants to play them because of this.

Whatever matchmaker they're using is the worst I've ever seen in any video game in my entire life.

I really hope they balance this stuff out, but I'm worried after all the times they've said that they want fun to be first and foremost, that they're going to leave busted characters like Iron Fist busted forever so that they remain "fun".

[CLipsAhoii]

skill issue lmao

[Cpt Obvious]

Iron Fist needs slight survivability nerf, and a bit of a nerf on the range of his homing punches.

[Chrispy]

Game hasnt even been out for a week yet

[Petnavi]

Originally posted by Chrispy:

Game hasnt even been out for a week yet

Not wrong but it's very evident who the outliers are both in being overtuned and undertuned.

Playing storm and wolverine for example, assuming equal skill level on both teams, is essentially griefing your team because they're just not strong and there's significantly better choices.

Meanwhile Iron Fist is the poster child for being way too strong with too much going for him. He's the only melee with an auto-lock on ability which is why he's so oppressive to the point where he can chase iron man through the hair despite being one of the fastest if not fastest characters in the game when he uses his boost while holding down one button.

Jeff is also an issue because he can snag people way high in the air and due to the map design there's a death pit every which way you look and if he uses the ult at end-game on payload he just wins.

[Crunchy[Daz]]

Its almost like balancing takes place over time after data is gathered and doesn't happen right away when you feel it needs to change.

[Asclepiust]

Originally posted by Borko:

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Namor is almost completely useless and almost nobody uses him.

Im currently playing this hero.
Idk not so hard to deal dmg and have mass ult + ez outplay jeffs ult(with shift bubble*)
About iron fist yeah. When playing supp...pain in a99

[TakingABreak]

Luna right click and Mantis damage boost. Ping and voice chat "IronFist help!"

He will be a huge pain until your team renders him useless, yes.

[KiroTheImmortal]

Originally posted by Cpt Obvious:

Iron Fist needs slight survivability nerf, and a bit of a nerf on the range of his homing punches.

the man gets one-two shot by most LR dps lol. stop missing

[KiroTheImmortal]

Originally posted by Borko:

Iron Fist obliterating every role in the game, especially Strategists, and backlines every match, becoming immortal while holding right click and gaining armor, and almost always getting away. There is no one in the game that can counter him and his attacks go through shields like Dr Strange's and Magneto's. He also magnetizes to you so if you try to get away with a dash, a grapple, or a boost into the air from any character, he will still magnetize to you, and he has THREE jumps.
Not even Iron Man at the top of the skybox can avoid him. Rocket dashing twice straight up can't avoid him. Dr Strange boosting up into the air can't avoid him. Nobody can.
Iron Fist is in literally every match, and I mean LITERALLY.

Jeff eating the entire team with a near instant undodgeable ult and then jumping off a cliff to kill them all. EVERY Jeff does this and it happens multiple times a match. There are a LOT of Jeff players playing him purely so they can do this.

Wanda has just way too much in her kit and her range is ridiculous for what it is.

Hawkeye.

Storm is almost completely useless and almost nobody uses her.

Namor is almost completely useless and almost nobody uses him.

Strategists are extremely frustrating to play across the board because of the high mobility in this game and how easily Duelists can slaughter them without them being able to do much about it.
Almost nobody wants to play them because of this.

Whatever matchmaker they're using is the worst I've ever seen in any video game in my entire life.

I really hope they balance this stuff out, but I'm worried after all the times they've said that they want fun to be first and foremost, that they're going to leave busted characters like Iron Fist busted forever so that they remain "fun".

Iron fist is so strong because the playerbase is so bad. He gets 1-2 shot the moment anyone looks at him the problem is most of the players are blind AF.

I agree storm needs a buff, but thats it. dont start nerfing everyone to water the game down to be garbo like OW and Paladins.

I stopped playing both when they took the nerf hammer to them and it made the game go from fun and exciting to minimum requirement of enjoyment is to be a proplayer.

[Charlemagne]

Originally posted by KiroTheImmortal:

Originally posted by Borko:

Iron Fist obliterating every role in the game, especially Strategists, and backlines every match, becoming immortal while holding right click and gaining armor, and almost always getting away. There is no one in the game that can counter him and his attacks go through shields like Dr Strange's and Magneto's. He also magnetizes to you so if you try to get away with a dash, a grapple, or a boost into the air from any character, he will still magnetize to you, and he has THREE jumps.
Not even Iron Man at the top of the skybox can avoid him. Rocket dashing twice straight up can't avoid him. Dr Strange boosting up into the air can't avoid him. Nobody can.
Iron Fist is in literally every match, and I mean LITERALLY.

Jeff eating the entire team with a near instant undodgeable ult and then jumping off a cliff to kill them all. EVERY Jeff does this and it happens multiple times a match. There are a LOT of Jeff players playing him purely so they can do this.

Wanda has just way too much in her kit and her range is ridiculous for what it is.

Hawkeye.

Storm is almost completely useless and almost nobody uses her.

Namor is almost completely useless and almost nobody uses him.

Strategists are extremely frustrating to play across the board because of the high mobility in this game and how easily Duelists can slaughter them without them being able to do much about it.
Almost nobody wants to play them because of this.

Whatever matchmaker they're using is the worst I've ever seen in any video game in my entire life.

I really hope they balance this stuff out, but I'm worried after all the times they've said that they want fun to be first and foremost, that they're going to leave busted characters like Iron Fist busted forever so that they remain "fun".

Iron fist is so strong because the playerbase is so bad. He gets 1-2 shot the moment anyone looks at him the problem is most of the players are blind AF.

I highly disagree with this statement, I've seen full teams of winning players focus him and he can easily get away while taking limited damage.

[MightyBalian]

Originally posted by Borko:

Iron Fist obliterating every role in the game, especially Strategists, and backlines every match, becoming immortal while holding right click and gaining armor, and almost always getting away. There is no one in the game that can counter him and his attacks go through shields like Dr Strange's and Magneto's. He also magnetizes to you so if you try to get away with a dash, a grapple, or a boost into the air from any character, he will still magnetize to you, and he has THREE jumps.
Not even Iron Man at the top of the skybox can avoid him. Rocket dashing twice straight up can't avoid him. Dr Strange boosting up into the air can't avoid him. Nobody can.
Iron Fist is in literally every match, and I mean LITERALLY.

Jeff eating the entire team with a near instant undodgeable ult and then jumping off a cliff to kill them all. EVERY Jeff does this and it happens multiple times a match. There are a LOT of Jeff players playing him purely so they can do this.

Wanda has just way too much in her kit and her range is ridiculous for what it is.

Hawkeye.

Storm is almost completely useless and almost nobody uses her.

Namor is almost completely useless and almost nobody uses him.

Strategists are extremely frustrating to play across the board because of the high mobility in this game and how easily Duelists can slaughter them without them being able to do much about it.
Almost nobody wants to play them because of this.

Whatever matchmaker they're using is the worst I've ever seen in any video game in my entire life.

I really hope they balance this stuff out, but I'm worried after all the times they've said that they want fun to be first and foremost, that they're going to leave busted characters like Iron Fist busted forever so that they remain "fun".

Game's been out 3 days. Give them time. That being said, I feel like I should remember you that we're literally playing as superhumans and, in a few cases, literal gods, and I LOVE the fact that they actually feel somewhat like their comic book counterparts.

Also, I feel the need to mention that I've killed many Iron Fists as Iron Man. He's really not that hard to deal with.

[Jay]

You are gonna have a lot of people commenting these one-off specific counters to anything you say... like, "It's not that hard. Skill issue." or "Bro, just ping your team to kill the Iron Fist," as though you aren't dead in literally 2 seconds when he pounces.

So, ill just say this... I agree with a lot of what you are saying. Not all, but a lot. And the game definitely needs to see some balance patches soon. The forums are ripe with people that make lofty claims about "This one time... in band camp... I killed an Iron Fist... so it's not that hard, bro."

[Ladiesman217]

nerf psylocke

[Lunar Fang]

Originally posted by Petnavi:

Originally posted by Chrispy:

Game hasnt even been out for a week yet

Not wrong but it's very evident who the outliers are both in being overtuned and undertuned.

Playing storm and wolverine for example, assuming equal skill level on both teams, is essentially griefing your team because they're just not strong and there's significantly better choices.

How do you know you're playing wolverine in the way he was intended?

Wolverine's attacks are percent based damage, meaning you should be swinging on the tank rather than the healer. You're meant to pounce the tank, grabbing him away from his team and isolating him and shredding him because you'll do more damage based on how much health your opponent has, but most people just pounce into the enemy team and start swinging and die while feeling like they're doing no damage.

So there's that, you know, knowing your heros strengths and weaknesses.

[l.shanksy]

Definitely needs some tweaking, like Magneto needs a buff, just doesn't hold up compared to the other tanks.