Hawkeye is shearding the hulk upon arrival

[General Nuclear]

It's bad enough that the hulk lacks any proper range attacks, but Hawkeye can for seemingly no reason what so ever! Senator armstrong tank a million punches from him, and last i checked hawkeye was a normal human being for crying out loud, i can't do jack sh*t as the hulk when he is on the other team.

[Maeda]

Hawkeye can 1 shot duelist if the shot is charged and powered from aiming the enemy. It doesn't need to be an headshot. If it didn't do as much damage, they would be fine, but I guess that's expected from Hawkeye, compensating big damage with barely 0 movement.

However, with Hulk, you can hold Space while attacking to have that big leap jump ready to dive in or escape.
As much he doesn't attack the enemy he stunned with his Gamma shout, many enemies can be destroyed. He can't be played alone for sure.
And I believe his shields can literally negate Scarlet's Ult entirely since nulifies any damage as much the shield is up (not sure, only heard).
To play Hulk, you're a diver that can secure an unexpected duelist or strategist that isn't being healed AND are already damaged. You're also a big distraction for your other Vanguard to recover because after all you're big, and big target are both great menaces and great baits.

[General Nuclear]

Originally posted by Maeda:

Hawkeye can 1 shot duelist if the shot is charged and powered from aiming the enemy. It doesn't need to be an headshot. If it didn't do as much damage, they would be fine, but I guess that's expected from Hawkeye, compensating big damage with barely 0 movement.

However, with Hulk, you can hold Space while attacking to have that big leap jump ready to dive in or escape.
As much he doesn't attack the enemy he stunned with his Gamma shout, many enemies can be destroyed. He can't be played alone for sure.
And I believe his shields can literally negate Scarlet's Ult entirely since nulifies any damage as much the shield is up (not sure, only heard).
To play Hulk, you're a diver that can secure an unexpected duelist or strategist that isn't being healed AND are already damaged. You're also a big distraction for your other Vanguard to recover because after all you're big, and big target are both great menaces and great baits.

I am using the leap, and i am using the shout, and i am also using the shield, but i can't for the life of me do anything because my punches does nothing against him, why the heck does he tank so many punches or any at all from the actual hulk of all people? It's like watching my self try to punch in my dreams.

And why doesn't the hulk of all heros have passive range resistance against these types of attacks? His whole deal is that he is bullet prof, but not melee prof, he is a waaaaay to big target for a one shot ability, he is in fact one massive walking, talking hit box on legs for crying out loud! and his ult doesn't make it any better.

[SoloQ]

The Hulk is a perfect backline diver. He's literally made to deal with characters like Hawkeye that have no mobility and who sit in the back row plucking away head shots.

[John Nightreign]

Originally posted by Maeda:

Hawkeye can 1 shot duelist if the shot is charged and powered from aiming the enemy. It doesn't need to be an headshot. If it didn't do as much damage, they would be fine, but I guess that's expected from Hawkeye, compensating big damage with barely 0 movement.

However, with Hulk, you can hold Space while attacking to have that big leap jump ready to dive in or escape.
As much he doesn't attack the enemy he stunned with his Gamma shout, many enemies can be destroyed. He can't be played alone for sure.
And I believe his shields can literally negate Scarlet's Ult entirely since nulifies any damage as much the shield is up (not sure, only heard).
To play Hulk, you're a diver that can secure an unexpected duelist or strategist that isn't being healed AND are already damaged. You're also a big distraction for your other Vanguard to recover because after all you're big, and big target are both great menaces and great baits.

So sick of people saying hawkeye lacks mobility. He has mobility, its just not stellar. He actually has MORE mobility than Hanzo from OW.

[Mochan]

Originally posted by Maeda:

Hawkeye can 1 shot duelist if the shot is charged and powered from aiming the enemy. It doesn't need to be an headshot. If it didn't do as much damage, they would be fine, but I guess that's expected from Hawkeye, compensating big damage with barely 0 movement.

However, with Hulk, you can hold Space while attacking to have that big leap jump ready to dive in or escape.
As much he doesn't attack the enemy he stunned with his Gamma shout, many enemies can be destroyed. He can't be played alone for sure.
And I believe his shields can literally negate Scarlet's Ult entirely since nulifies any damage as much the shield is up (not sure, only heard).
To play Hulk, you're a diver that can secure an unexpected duelist or strategist that isn't being healed AND are already damaged. You're also a big distraction for your other Vanguard to recover because after all you're big, and big target are both great menaces and great baits.

Hawkeye has movement though. He isn't like Adam Warlock who is a sitting duck.
Hulk is essentially Winston. He is literally designed to dive the backline and kill people like Adam Warlock, Hawkeye and Widow.

[Maeda]

Originally posted by Mochan:

Hawkeye has movement though. He isn't like Adam Warlock who is a sitting duck.
Hulk is essentially Winston. He is literally designed to dive the backline and kill people like Adam Warlock, Hawkeye and Widow.

Personally, I wouldn't consider Hawkeye to have said movement because of his single movement ability being a big leap jump but... Opinions are subjective.

But you're right, despite being melee only, he's almost like Wiston from Overwatch. You simply described what I stated about Hulk in short.

[Maeda]

Originally posted by John Outlast:

So sick of people saying hawkeye lacks mobility. He has mobility, its just not stellar. He actually has MORE mobility than Hanzo from OW.

A singular big leap to avoid and get high ground doesn't make a character to have mobility or be very mobile. Unlike Hanzo, he doesn't climb walls but he does have other tools to compensate which is not a wrong thing. Again, opinions are subjective; if you believe that his jump is a good move enough to consider Hawkeye to have mobility, sure.

[Maeda]

Originally posted by General Nuclear:

And why doesn't the hulk of all heros have passive range resistance against these types of attacks? His whole deal is that he is bullet prof, but not melee prof, he is a waaaaay to big target for a one shot ability, he is in fact one massive walking, talking hit box on legs for crying out loud! and his ult doesn't make it any better.

This is something I've been thinking; that or the game is still new and I don't have enough ideas to make Hulk good and just do something wrong but I would agree to have Hulk being resistant to long range attacks. His shield is good but use it mostly near your allies, the more they hit your shield, the faster you get your Ult.
And again, his big hitbox is really something people wanna hit so you would be a great target but as much you keep leaping every second, you should be okay, just don't push hard and mostly protect your strategists.

[General Nuclear]

Originally posted by Maeda:

Originally posted by Mochan:

Hawkeye has movement though. He isn't like Adam Warlock who is a sitting duck.
Hulk is essentially Winston. He is literally designed to dive the backline and kill people like Adam Warlock, Hawkeye and Widow.

Personally, I wouldn't consider Hawkeye to have said movement because of his single movement ability being a big leap jump but... Opinions are subjective.

But you're right, despite being melee only, he's almost like Wiston from Overwatch. You simply described what I stated about Hulk in short.

The problem is that the hulk is not in fact winston, and he does not have a tasser as a weapon, but fists strong enough to take out a skyscraping metal alien monstrosity with a single punch, yet regular humans are somehow able to withstand several blows from him somehow?

https://youtu.be/udKE1ksKWDE?t=95

[Jesi]

Originally posted by SoloQ:

The Hulk is a perfect backline diver. He's literally made to deal with characters like Hawkeye that have no mobility and who sit in the back row plucking away head shots.

No... its Venom. Hulk is weakest Vanguard that exist to basically PROTECT his backline. They should rework him ASAP. His shield should be personal only but with invulnerability and healing for amount of damage taken during those 3 seconds and his CC should be a ROAR that deals damage and stuns instead of locking people in place for lols.