Iron Fist needs a nerf kinda but also needs a buff

[Velocity]

I think most characters are balanced from being too op except him. He has too much mobility and too much damage with very little drawback in his kit. You could say his range is the limiting factor, but compare to a more similar character Wolverine who has to aim, and has straight up worse damage, he has so much range. His lock on makes it super easy to have air time on an iron man for some reason. His lock on system in theory is fine but the fact it makes his movement super erratic, trying to kill him while to kill you is super hard cause his movement animations are super hard to track. His damage is also nuts right after dragons defense. I want to really compare him to wolverine who is just literally a worse version, like why does iron fist and not wolverine. I think he just needs to nerf his range of lock on or streamline his animations, and reduce his dragon defence damage buy a bit and he'll be fine. Cause a lot of people are playing him for way too easy of value and destroying backlines without having to do much.

(UPDATED 2/5/25) the game has changed so much since my first week of playing. But i have hit GM and want to update this. I do think some parts of his kits are lowkey busted especially when going against a jeff or ironman there is only death for the other. But for any decent coordinated team he has kinda lost his value. as believe it or not he's insane in a 1v1 in most situations but he is horrible once the team notices his presence. He needs either more mobility or survivability so he can get out. I think most of the time he can get one but he will basically always die to it. I do think hes still really weird to shoot though his animations are still hellla scuffed i will die on that hill.

[Velocity]

Sorry i meant to say why does iron fist have a better heal than wolverine in that line

[Blood and Gorditas]

Yep he's a pain in the ass for strategist to deal with.

[PVT.Blueberry]

chuck a stun at him

[k0rbin0]

nah

[Jesi]

Its because Wolverine needs a buff... and after playing him for a while (This Achievement was HARD!) I will say that he actually can heal nicely! Unfortunately it happens like every 90sec because thats his passive. Reduce his passive timer and Wolverine will be fine.

Also both Wolverine and Iron Fist (and maybe Thor) are actually something of an offtank. They could easily represent 4th class... a mix between Vanguard and Duelist.

[지미세요]

I used to hate Iron Fist too but the higher I got in rank the less scary he became.

Sure, he can kill you and deal some specific amount of damage, but you have to understand that he punish you for bad positioning. Whatever Hero you play, Iron Fist is useless. Be self aware all the time, ping him if he is getting close and stay close to the team.

You also have to understand how he works and what he can do. If he jumps on you - it's either your fault for being away from team or not paying attention where's hiding because then he is punishing you for bad positioning.

If there is Iron Fist on enemy team - I always ask for Mantis since her AOE sleep is easier to hit than Luna's Ice Freeze. Mind you - once you CC him he is like 99% of time dead.

Not to mention that every Hero : Iron Fist, Spider Man, Black Panther, Magik, Psylocke punish every team for not sticking together. They punish lack of coordination, bad positioning and lack of self awarness.

(Luna Main - Lord) The amount of times Iron Fist jumped on me to kill me exceeds all expectations. I was annoyed too, it made me angry too, but the truth is that it was my fault because:

- I wasn't paying attention to my surroundings (Tunnel Vision)
- I panicked the moment I saw him in front of me
- I missed skillshots
- I didn't ping my team that I need help.

Once I changed that, then Iron Fist stopped being a threat to me. He can still kill me, that's obvious, but it's no longer as easy as it was in the beginning.

Of course, everything I have written here is my own experience.

[goat]

iron fist sucks in high elo

[Velocity]

Nguyên văn bởi 지미세요:

I used to hate Iron Fist too but the higher I got in rank the less scary he became.

Sure, he can kill you and deal some specific amount of damage, but you have to understand that he punish you for bad positioning. Whatever Hero you play, Iron Fist is useless. Be self aware all the time, ping him if he is getting close and stay close to the team.

You also have to understand how he works and what he can do. If he jumps on you - it's either your fault for being away from team or not paying attention where's hiding because then he is punishing you for bad positioning.

If there is Iron Fist on enemy team - I always ask for Mantis since her AOE sleep is easier to hit than Luna's Ice Freeze. Mind you - once you CC him he is like 99% of time dead.

Not to mention that every Hero : Iron Fist, Spider Man, Black Panther, Magik, Psylocke punish every team for not sticking together. They punish lack of coordination, bad positioning and lack of self awarness.

(Luna Main - Lord) The amount of times Iron Fist jumped on me to kill me exceeds all expectations. I was annoyed too, it made me angry too, but the truth is that it was my fault because:

- I wasn't paying attention to my surroundings (Tunnel Vision)
- I panicked the moment I saw him in front of me
- I missed skillshots
- I didn't ping my team that I need help.

Once I changed that, then Iron Fist stopped being a threat to me. He can still kill me, that's obvious, but it's no longer as easy as it was in the beginning.

Of course, everything I have written here is my own experience.

After playing the game a ton I actually hundred percent agree. Just need mantis and Luna now lol

[Interstella 5555]

He doesn't. Rarely seen him above gold. When people pick him in my diamond lobbies, its almost considered a troll and I have not really seen anyone doing great on him.

[Vez]

Nguyên văn bởi Jesi:

Its because Wolverine needs a buff... and after playing him for a while (This Achievement was HARD!) I will say that he actually can heal nicely! Unfortunately it happens like every 90sec because thats his passive. Reduce his passive timer and Wolverine will be fine.

Also both Wolverine and Iron Fist (and maybe Thor) are actually something of an offtank. They could easily represent 4th class... a mix between Vanguard and Duelist.

If you compare them, it will go in line with Heroes of the Storm classes, like the Bruiser class.

[Projec7DarkZero]

Nguyên văn bởi Interstella 5555:

He doesn't. Rarely seen him above gold. When people pick him in my diamond lobbies, its almost considered a troll and I have not really seen anyone doing great on him.

Comp isnt the only area that matters. Hes Not balanced outside there. Only making your game balanced around comp KILLS the game.

[Ivory]

Melee just needs a nerf across the board. It is ruining the game for every other character. Holding mouse 1 and forward and getting ace's while everyone else has to work for it is the welfare of dps. Iron Fist *especially* is where the main complain comes from.

It will drive the player base away. No one will want to play support or ranged dps because why work for skill, aiming, talent when you can get an ace on your very first time playing the game.

This is beyond absurdity. I would expect this from Blizzard but not a developer with access to Marvel Money.

[Legendkiller456]

Iron Fist doesn't need a nerf lol. If you have teammates that pay attention, all it takes is like two people to kill him (maybe three if you have less damage in the back). It takes a couple seconds for your team to turn and take him out.