can yall make wolverine not suck

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you made the WOLVERINE die instantly.

THE WOLVERINE.

the guy who's three descriptive words are hairy, angry, and IMMORTAL.

you made him terrible.

what a damn joke. why would you make the damn wolverine a glass cannon. he is just a cannon, no glass in sight.

[Floppa]

ngl massive skill issue hes good

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Originally posted by Terrain:

ngl massive skill issue hes good

maybe if your enemies all spread out like they're social distancing and none of them have any range or movement abilities

even with full rage and his shout AND his second chance ability you will still barely scrape by against half the cast, he's too reliant on that unreliable dive

[chromium]

thats most likely a you problem, most wolverines ive seen are fine whether its on my team or the other

[Souls]

Originally posted by Terrain:

ngl massive skill issue hes good

No he isn't lol, Magik, Wolverine and Black Panther are all pretty bad, Magik being the worst out of the 3.

Wolverine at least has some tank shreading max HP damage but yeah he needs some buffs too.

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Originally posted by chromium:

thats most likely a you problem, most wolverines ive seen are fine whether its on my team or the other

the only time ive seen wolverines do well (teammates and enemies) is when the team just ignores him and lets him shred whatever he pleases. literally any focus fire from 2 or 3 people makes logan fall faster than that adamantium skeleton reaches terminal velocity

god forbid they just press S while looking at you, because if that slash is on cooldown you will not reach them before they dumpster you

[Wingnut Mcmoomoo]

Originally posted by Manic4Moxxie:

Originally posted by Terrain:

ngl massive skill issue hes good

maybe if your enemies all spread out like they're social distancing and none of them have any range or movement abilities

even with full rage and his shout AND his second chance ability you will still barely scrape by against half the cast

... your reply isn't really refuting them its kind of affirming them.

If you see a group of 6 of the other team... don't run into them. wait. Wait until they are engaged with someone else and go in with them.

Other people aren't getting "lucky the other team is spread out" they're just not running into a group of 5 eating every bullet on the way there and then acting all shocked when they fall over.

Wolverine isn't the strongest character but he's harder to kill than iron fist. Stop running running in when the team is looking at you, jump in with the tanks or other dps. Look for 2 people having a 1v1 and turn it into a 2v1. Or when a full fight breaks out you go after prime targets like the supports or a high value dps like hela or hawkeye while they're focused on the team fight.

But yeah you responding that way just kind of makes it seem like you're running in blindly hoping that the enemies will be spread out?... which like yeah, you're gonna fall over doing that because its not really a good plan. Play in a bit more of a thought out way and you'll get better results tbh.

[Ali Salar]

Wolverine is a type of hero that needs to go in get a kill and out much like Spider-Man. Don't expect him to tank

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people dont split up often even through long fights, both supports are damn near glued to one another, if one of them is jeff you will die before either of them goes down.

im not 1v6ing or anything, but he literally cant do anything if the enemy team is near eachother, which is 90% of the game in 90% of matches.

there is 0 reason to play him over Iron Fist or anyone with actual range

[Wingnut Mcmoomoo]

Originally posted by Manic4Moxxie:

Originally posted by chromium:

thats most likely a you problem, most wolverines ive seen are fine whether its on my team or the other

the only time ive seen wolverines do well (teammates and enemies) is when the team just ignores him and lets him shred whatever he pleases. literally any focus fire from 2 or 3 people makes logan fall faster than that adamantium skeleton reaches terminal velocity

god forbid they just press S while looking at you, because if that slash is on cooldown you will not reach them before they dumpster you

They usually aren't ignoring him, its usually that the wolverine is attacking when enemies are distracted... you're thinking that its other people being bad that allows for the wolverine to do well instead of the person playing him putting in the work to attack at better times.

(also lol you have some extreme control on the slash, if they dodge you by pressing S its because you didn't move your aim to hit them... like actually aim lol you can do that during his moves)

[rygar8bit]

You need to flank and hit their back line.

[Pilesformiles]

100% a skill issue. I main wolverine and he is an absolute menace. Use the map to your advantage and avoid using him on maps that are very open. He is incredibly good at getting into the team and picking them apart as long as you land your feral leap. It's mind blowing how straight forward a kit can be yet how difficult some people can make it seem. Read your ability tooltips before playing the game and you wouldn't suck.

[Wingnut Mcmoomoo]

Originally posted by Manic4Moxxie:

people dont split up often even through long fights, both supports are damn near glued to one another, if one of them is jeff you will die before either of them goes down.

im not 1v6ing or anything, but he literally cant do anything if the enemy team is near eachother, which is 90% of the game in 90% of matches

Yes so don't go in 1v2... go in with your team. Again... you seem to be making all your plans thinking "ok its me vs the other team" and you aren't even considering your team as part of that plan... thats probably why you're falling over with a melee character.

EDIT: Lol you're even saying the answer. "the other team survives because they are always together! why do i fall over!?" and like... the answer is already in your head you just gotta connect the final pieces.

second edit: the main reason to play wolv over iron fist if you ask me is that iron fist folds to a couple of heroes. IF the other team has a cloak and dagger or a peni then the iron fist is gonna have a bad day. Cloak can melt iron fist before he can close the gap and escape him even if iron fist gets the jump on cloak and peni is just hard core anti dive so she stops pretty much all dive heroes tbh.

[GhrominIronfist]

As someone at lord rank prof with wolverine, if your still doing well on him, then your still in baby bracket mmr. he is outclassed by everyone else in the game.

[DIRTY DEEDS DONE DIRT CHEAP]

He is voiced by Steve Blum, by definition it's already S tier

[Big Homie Arn]

Biggest issue that Wolverine has is that there is no clear indication of when his Healing Factor pops in.

If they can tune that + give him the ability to scale walls, he'd be much better. But as of now I agree, Logan is really poor.