Magik in desperate need of buffs just to become viable

[Souls]

She is just plain awful, she has the massive drawback of being a melee character in a shooting game, but unlike other melee characters her mobility is ♥♥♥♥, her damage is ♥♥♥♥ and her ultimate is ♥♥♥♥. She has nothing going for her and is seen as a grief pick in ranked play, she is so horribly imbalanced it doesn't even seem like she was playtested. Can we please get some hotfix buffs so she's at least viable? Ultimate needs to give actual damage, it should reduced damage taken as well, you got other DPS 1 shotting entire teams and yet she still can't kill people if they get some healing while ulting, it just puts a big target on her because her animations become so slow as well.

[¤ OpN ¤]

If she makes it into the back line, she will ♥♥♥♥ everything up. This is their build by design

[Egirl Seat]

Origineel geplaatst door EmperorVolo:

Origineel geplaatst door Egirl Seat:

Every character is used by someone as their main in the top 500. Doesn't mean every character is equally balanced. Other than Psylocke, Hela alone is used more than every other DPS combined. Maybe don't be an idiot?

Are we talking about hela? Just cause a character has a high skill ceiling doesn't mean it's bad. Just you're bad.

You're really ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ stupid to think that was the point being made, huh? Maybe you should retire in your old age. The alzheimer's seems to be getting to you.

[Egirl Seat]

Origineel geplaatst door ¤ OpN ¤:

If she makes it into the back line, she will ♥♥♥♥ everything up. This is their build by design

That's the problem, she has no good way to get INTO the backline without burning the same abilities she needs to secure the kills and/or escape. And the same can be said for all the melee DPS, the problem being that all of them except Wolverine can do it 10x easier AND get away easily too afterwards. So yeah, if everything goes your way and nobody reacts to you or makes any effort to stop you, she's great. But that's obviously not gonna be the case most of the time, and in those times Magik just doesn't have anything justifying picking her over a different character.

[MewingMaster]

My name in Rivals is Oliuncalyumbi, Im diamond and ONLY play Magik, you can check my stats and see how "unviable" she is.

In your favor I'd say other melee like Black panther are WAY better, faster and safer. yeah, pushing with her wasting 1 portal and throwing E just to miss it so now you're down to 1 portal is horrible.

she shouldn't be nerfed IF they buffed, I think they should just make the E easier to hit and being able to cancel the 2 portal options when you get out of them

[Egirl Seat]

Origineel geplaatst door MewingMaster:

My name in Rivals is Oliuncalyumbi, Im diamond and ONLY play Magik, you can check my stats and see how "unviable" she is.

In your favor I'd say other melee like Black panther are WAY better, faster and safer. yeah, pushing with her wasting 1 portal and throwing E just to miss it so now you're down to 1 portal is horrible.

she shouldn't be nerfed IF they buffed, I think they should just make the E easier to hit and being able to cancel the 2 portal options when you get out of them

I mean I think just by the way you compared Black Panther it's pretty clear she needs more than just some small QoL. Cause yeah, again, you absolutely CAN play her, and you CAN get value even in the high ranks. But the question is whether she's getting a fair amount of value compared to easier/stronger/safer picks, and to that I'd have to say no.

[Phishfood]

top player on the leaderboards at the moment is a magik main

[Onimaho]

Origineel geplaatst door Souls:

She is just plain awful, she has the massive drawback of being a melee character in a shooting game, but unlike other melee characters her mobility is ♥♥♥♥, her damage is ♥♥♥♥ and her ultimate is ♥♥♥♥. She has nothing going for her and is seen as a grief pick in ranked play, she is so horribly imbalanced it doesn't even seem like she was playtested. Can we please get some hotfix buffs so she's at least viable? Ultimate needs to give actual damage, it should reduced damage taken as well, you got other DPS 1 shotting entire teams and yet she still can't kill people if they get some healing while ulting, it just puts a big target on her because her animations become so slow as well.

100% skill issue detected.

Origineel geplaatst door Egirl Seat:

Origineel geplaatst door ¤ OpN ¤:

If she makes it into the back line, she will ♥♥♥♥ everything up. This is their build by design

That's the problem, she has no good way to get INTO the backline without burning the same abilities she needs to secure the kills and/or escape. And the same can be said for all the melee DPS, the problem being that all of them except Wolverine can do it 10x easier AND get away easily too afterwards. So yeah, if everything goes your way and nobody reacts to you or makes any effort to stop you, she's great. But that's obviously not gonna be the case most of the time, and in those times Magik just doesn't have anything justifying picking her over a different character.

Did you try clicking the button that gives her a dash across the entire arena in any direction within 3d space? Also, comes with the added joy of deleting half a characters healthbar if you do manage to connect. Can even use it to murder a floating ironman in 2 hits.

Teleports are for just being a trickster and delaying until that dash goes off cooldown, rinse repeat slaughter everything. The main focus of her kit is the dash ability for initiating damage and escaping.

If you have a healer feeding you, the character is unkillable with or without her ult activated. Since you are also gaining health with dealing damage.

[TangAce]

the 4 melee non assassin characters (magik, ironfist, blackpanther, wolverine) all need some sort of buff to be more viable

yes, even ironfist isn't that viable even if he's the best of the bunch
the main issue is that diving in is simply impossible in the current state of the game, healers are simply extremely hard to kill and heal way too much to be able to kill anything that's being healed by yourself if you're one of those 4

and they all have those two issues that the assassin type heroes (think spiderman, psylocke and starlord) don't have, namely that they don't have any range dps capability, and that they don't have that "oh sh*t" button to get out
so they have to go in to do anything useful, if they are in they either kill or die unless they're being pocketed somehow, and if they fail their engage they end up highly badly positioned while also not have much mobility for the next like 8sec
ironfist is fairing a bit better than the other 3 because he got his jumps

they are all execution heavy, high risk high reward type of characters, but right now the risk is way too high for a reward that almost never exist because the game is a heal fest and basically every dps has movement or invulnerability or both that makes them hard to kill before they get healed or they simply get away and kill you, and of course you can't duel healers lmfao it's overwatch all over again

[Borko]

Absolutely not. She is busted beyond belief and honestly worse than Iron Fist.

[Egirl Seat]

Origineel geplaatst door Phishfood:

top player on the leaderboards at the moment is a magik main

Already established, there's someone "maining" every character in the top 500, doesn't mean they're all equally balanced.

Origineel geplaatst door Onimaho:

Origineel geplaatst door Souls:

She is just plain awful, she has the massive drawback of being a melee character in a shooting game, but unlike other melee characters her mobility is ♥♥♥♥, her damage is ♥♥♥♥ and her ultimate is ♥♥♥♥. She has nothing going for her and is seen as a grief pick in ranked play, she is so horribly imbalanced it doesn't even seem like she was playtested. Can we please get some hotfix buffs so she's at least viable? Ultimate needs to give actual damage, it should reduced damage taken as well, you got other DPS 1 shotting entire teams and yet she still can't kill people if they get some healing while ulting, it just puts a big target on her because her animations become so slow as well.

100% skill issue detected.

Origineel geplaatst door Egirl Seat:

That's the problem, she has no good way to get INTO the backline without burning the same abilities she needs to secure the kills and/or escape. And the same can be said for all the melee DPS, the problem being that all of them except Wolverine can do it 10x easier AND get away easily too afterwards. So yeah, if everything goes your way and nobody reacts to you or makes any effort to stop you, she's great. But that's obviously not gonna be the case most of the time, and in those times Magik just doesn't have anything justifying picking her over a different character.

Did you try clicking the button that gives her a dash across the entire arena in any direction within 3d space? Also, comes with the added joy of deleting half a characters healthbar if you do manage to connect. Can even use it to murder a floating ironman in 2 hits.

Teleports are for just being a trickster and delaying until that dash goes off cooldown, rinse repeat slaughter everything. The main focus of her kit is the dash ability for initiating damage and escaping.

If you have a healer feeding you, the character is unkillable with or without her ult activated. Since you are also gaining health with dealing damage.

Did you forget you also need that button to have any chance of killing your target? You use it to get into position you no longer have lethal threat, you use it to escape, you no longer have lethal threat, you use it in-fight and they get healed by 5 out of 7 healers, you no longer have lethal threat AND you're going to lose the fight too.

Also it's about a 3rd on a squishy target, not half, there isn't anyone in the game she can actually 2-hit. And there's also the matter that there are plenty of other characters that can do the same thing with more mobility/sustainability/easier to use abilities. Spiderman's uppercut alone does the same damage with the web buff (which you should always have before engaging anyway). She's not special in that regard. There's lots of characters who can 1-shot combo and even actual 1-shots. Her damage is entirely average yet she suffers virtually every drawback possible for it.

Teleports are also a necessary part of your damage output, without which you are not threatening at all and your TTK becomes a LOT slower to the point she's not even noteworthy anymore. So yes, the focus is to dash in and deal damage, nobody here doesn't understand that, the problem is the escape part because she has no effective means to do so AND remain a potent threat. Your teleports barely travel faster than walking speed and aren't getting you out of any danger.

If you have a pocket healer it's entirely moot because we just go back to the fact that it would be better served to play a more effective character and get the same treatment. If you NEED a pocket just to do the same things they can do by themselves, that only proves the point that Magik is notably weaker.

[Egirl Seat]

Origineel geplaatst door Borko:

Absolutely not. She is busted beyond belief and honestly worse than Iron Fist.

Bro got hit the combo once and never bothered to learn what the character actually does.

[Borko]

Origineel geplaatst door Egirl Seat:

Origineel geplaatst door Borko:

Absolutely not. She is busted beyond belief and honestly worse than Iron Fist.

Bro got hit the combo once and never bothered to learn what the character actually does.

Bro never learned how to hit the combo.

[Egirl Seat]

Origineel geplaatst door Borko:

Origineel geplaatst door Egirl Seat:

Bro got hit the combo once and never bothered to learn what the character actually does.

Bro never learned how to hit the combo.

The whole point is that she has nothing outside the combo which has terrible uptime while other characters have equally lethal combos AND better uptime. But keep exposing yourself there bud.

[Borko]

Origineel geplaatst door Egirl Seat:

Origineel geplaatst door Borko:

Bro never learned how to hit the combo.

The whole point is that she has nothing outside the combo which has terrible uptime while other characters have equally lethal combos AND better uptime. But keep exposing yourself there bud.

Oh noooo the character kills EXTREMELY fast with the combo and there's almost nothing you can do when she gets to you. Oh nooooo.
She's so bad.

You're just bad.

[Jesi]

Well... and you sound like someone who wants to main her but SKILL ISSUE.