Is it wrong to call this a casual game?

[60]

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[Nydas]

Nope. Its a very casual game. Without role queue, thats all it ever will be.

Open queue is impossible to balance and will always be a cluster ****. Despite what the vocal minority scream in Overwatch, role queue is necessary for a game to be competitive.

[AFK Spy]

Eh.

[Loukach]

I was hardstomped 5 of my 6 last games today by some otp players with the meta team that goes with it.. So i guess half the game was casual at that time.. And i wanted to try to play some other characters i'm not used to play on those games.. guess i'll have to forget about that :')

I would add that 4 of those games were convoy in attack on the same map.. So maybe the map configuration play a role in that or just bad luck eh..

[brownie689]

Originally posted by Nydas:

Nope. Its a very casual game. Without role queue, thats all it ever will be.

Open queue is impossible to balance and will always be a cluster ****. Despite what the vocal minority scream in Overwatch, role queue is necessary for a game to be competitive.

NOPE

[Oro]

Of course, it's a janky phone game. It gets no casual-er.

[Make clash permanent]

Originally posted by 60:

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Yeah, none of the champions have a high enough skill ceiling to allow for true competitiveness.

I just counted, 14 out of 33 champions all have a simple circle/sphere of death nuke as their ult.

This game could be amazing, I see innovation in about 13% of the game but thats it.

Its riding off the brands momentum and if they don't promise alot the games not going to last very long.

[King Raska]

Guys the game just came out, let the game develop. See what the game has in store for the future. I think for this game to do better they'd maybe need to add more depth for the characters, or some system mechanics, etc, but for what it is right now, it is just a fun little game to play and to keep an eye on. :)

[Wipkonijntje]

theres nothing casual about a pvp game.

game is just released so it won't show yet but u can expect "pro" premade teams to take over the game.

and also its a free to play game = big mistake -> smurfs will rise out of every hole of the earth in a month.

[id795078477]

Originally posted by Nydas:

Nope. Its a very casual game. Without role queue, thats all it ever will be.

Open queue is impossible to balance and will always be a cluster ****. Despite what the vocal minority scream in Overwatch, role queue is necessary for a game to be competitive.

I fail to see what "role queue" / "open queue" / whatever format has to do with a game being competitive. I would get it if only one team had to play by those rules (or lack thereof). But both teams adhere to the same format. So "oh no, 6 DPS chaos" is the same issue on the hands of the enemy team as much as it is on yours. The team that plays better manages to win. "Playing better" includes finding correct picks, choosing roles that suit the match and outplaying the enemy. So... that sounds exactly like "competition" to me.

The only connection I could possibly see is the argument of "but it's impossible to make it all balanced!", to which there is an answer:

-- At worst, if some strategy is found to be too good and devs don't fix it, it will just devolve into playing that strategy. Boring game format, but a competitive one nevertheless. OW had this issue with GOATS despite its role queue for years.

-- But Rivals has an even better option to smoothen the potential sharp edges out: hero bans. Some heroes are too far ahead on the balance bell curve? No worries, ban them and fix the balance.

[Im Not]

because this game is made for all retarded ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ that want to play only dps but dont know hoxw to play ! Just delete the game

[Wipkonijntje]

Originally posted by Im Not:

because this game is made for all retarded ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ that want to play only dps but dont know hoxw to play ! Just delete the game

letterly no point to play a tank atm, theres so much movement and flying characters r just laughing at melee tanks from up in the sky.

[Nydas]

Originally posted by id795078477:

I fail to see what "role queue" / "open queue" / whatever format has to do with a game being competitive. I would get it if only one team had to play by those rules (or lack thereof). But both teams adhere to the same format.

If we stuck with that logic, 75% of the roster would always be literally unplayable. Which means people cant play characters they like to play. Which means the game dies.