Healing is so insane in this game dude

[GrocKing]

Like i understand healing as a factor but it should not just let players tank an ultimate.

It should only be used out of combat or as a small damage reduction. I honestly get tilted when i get an enemies HP to 1 and then they just get back to full HP or their health bars straight up go up when i'm doing damage to them.

[Mochan]

It really isn't.

[GrocKing]

Originally posted by Mochan:

It really isn't.

Chief i just got out of a game where i had to dump 2 mags into an enemy as starlord when ulting. The guy went from 1 hp to full hp almost instantly. Like you can't even blame it on my accuracy because I LITERALLY COULDN'T MISS.

If you manage to get competent 2 healers in the game it just feels like a spongefest.

[Obtuse Moose]

There does need to at least be anti-heal abilities, I agree. The only one that seems to exist is Dr. Strange doing it to themselves and I'm already seeing 3 healer comps becoming a norm.

[GrocKing]

Originally posted by Obtuse Moose:

There does need to at least be anti-heal abilities, I agree. The only one that seems to exist is Dr. Strange doing it to themselves and I'm already seeing 3 healer comps becoming a norm.

Maybe something like paladins where you have built-in anti heal on every attack? So people can't just tank damage and sit there doing nothing. Seems like a quick (at least temporary) fix to me.

[Canti]

it really isnt, its a very team orientated game and combo'd ult's basically end people no matter what. just seems like you arent that good at reading engagements and get frustrated when you should be killing the healers not the tanks or carries, especially as a starkiller. you flank and end people tbh.
the healing only applies to tanks as well since most carries and healers are sub 400 hp.
hit crits or wait out ults. u sound bad tbh.

[Obtuse Moose]

Originally posted by Canti:

it really isnt, its a very team orientated game and combo'd ult's basically end people no matter what. just seems like you arent that good at reading engagements and get frustrated when you should be killing the healers not the tanks or carries, especially as a starkiller. you flank and end people tbh.
the healing only applies to tanks as well since most carries and healers are sub 400 hp.
hit crits or wait out ults. u sound bad tbh.

No he really isn't overreacting, there's healers that are capable of sustaining through any ult besides Scarlet Witch. Comps that can dive in and wipe them out are the main counter but there is for sure healers that are far more over-tuned than others.

[Corvino]

Originally posted by GrocKing:

Originally posted by Mochan:

It really isn't.

Chief i just got out of a game where i had to dump 2 mags into an enemy as starlord when ulting. The guy went from 1 hp to full hp almost instantly. Like you can't even blame it on my accuracy because I LITERALLY COULDN'T MISS.

If you manage to get competent 2 healers in the game it just feels like a spongefest.

So use your newly acquired aimbot from the ult and focus the healers

[GrocKing]

Originally posted by Canti:

it really isnt, its a very team orientated game and combo'd ult's basically end people no matter what. just seems like you arent that good at reading engagements and get frustrated when you should be killing the healers not the tanks or carries, especially as a starkiller. you flank and end people tbh.
the healing only applies to tanks as well since most carries and healers are sub 400 hp.
hit crits or wait out ults. u sound bad tbh.

You need to kill supports first was the memo on OW2 aswell and look where it got them.

Also , if you have 2 healers flanking doesn't do anything either since they can just heal each other. Which was the case on some games i've played.

Nobody likes a spongefest.

Originally posted by Corvino:

Originally posted by GrocKing:

Chief i just got out of a game where i had to dump 2 mags into an enemy as starlord when ulting. The guy went from 1 hp to full hp almost instantly. Like you can't even blame it on my accuracy because I LITERALLY COULDN'T MISS.

If you manage to get competent 2 healers in the game it just feels like a spongefest.

So use your newly acquired aimbot from the ult and focus the healers

I was c: The guy i had to dump 2 mags into was a support and was getting healed by another support.

Originally posted by Obtuse Moose:

Originally posted by Canti:

it really isnt, its a very team orientated game and combo'd ult's basically end people no matter what. just seems like you arent that good at reading engagements and get frustrated when you should be killing the healers not the tanks or carries, especially as a starkiller. you flank and end people tbh.
the healing only applies to tanks as well since most carries and healers are sub 400 hp.
hit crits or wait out ults. u sound bad tbh.

No he really isn't overreacting, there's healers that are capable of sustaining through any ult besides Scarlet Witch. Comps that can dive in and wipe them out are the main counter but there is for sure healers that are far more over-tuned than others.

Yep if it isn't a burst you can overheal ultimates which is pretty sad. I'm not saying you shouldn't "heal ultimates" i'm just saying you shouldn't OVERHEAL ultimates. If it's gonna take 1.5x times or 1.25x times longer to kill someone i'm fine with it. But if it completely negates my ultimate on a single person then that's a problem.

[dragonoftime27]

Originally posted by GrocKing:

Originally posted by Canti:

it really isnt, its a very team orientated game and combo'd ult's basically end people no matter what. just seems like you arent that good at reading engagements and get frustrated when you should be killing the healers not the tanks or carries, especially as a starkiller. you flank and end people tbh.
the healing only applies to tanks as well since most carries and healers are sub 400 hp.
hit crits or wait out ults. u sound bad tbh.

You need to kill supports first was the memo on OW2 aswell and look where it got them.

Also , if you have 2 healers flanking doesn't do anything either since they can just heal each other. Which was the case on some games i've played.

Nobody likes a spongefest.

Originally posted by Corvino:

So use your newly acquired aimbot from the ult and focus the healers

I was c: The guy i had to dump 2 mags into was a support and was getting healed by another support.

focusing the healers first has nothing to do with OW2 in any negative way. its common sense, healers are the teams life-line, kill the healer, you kill the team's life-line.

[Draknalor]

Originally posted by GrocKing:

Like i understand healing as a factor but it should not just let players tank an ultimate.

It should only be used out of combat or as a small damage reduction. I honestly get tilted when i get an enemies HP to 1 and then they just get back to full HP or their health bars straight up go up when i'm doing damage to them.

The game needs a lot lower damage overall, people die way too fast, it's incredibly unfun to try and be melee currently since you get melted the moment you show your face

[GrocKing]

Originally posted by dragonoftime27:

Originally posted by GrocKing:

You need to kill supports first was the memo on OW2 aswell and look where it got them.

Also , if you have 2 healers flanking doesn't do anything either since they can just heal each other. Which was the case on some games i've played.

Nobody likes a spongefest.



I was c: The guy i had to dump 2 mags into was a support and was getting healed by another support.

focusing the healers first has nothing to do with OW2 in any negative way. its common sense, healers are the teams life-line, kill the healer, you kill the team's life-line.

Nope. I agree with healers needing to be focused but if you make it the ONLY way to win a fight then it becomes a problem. This was the case on OW2 and over the course of the game they had to both nerf healing and add anti heal effects. Like DPS role straight up has like %20 or %25 or something like that anti heal when inflicting damage. Even after all of this supports are still seen as a powercrept role.

Developers got bullied so hard they are gonna start doing tests with 6v6 again with 2 tanks on next season. Because having 1 tank + all the healing from 6v6 made it so game started revolving on the tank role staying alive which made it both a spongefest and a terrible game to play.

Funnily enough i myself have said the same thing when OW2 launched (i played OW1 since 2016) and people responded the same saying "just kill the support lul"

[✪ Icey]

Originally posted by Canti:

it really isnt, its a very team orientated game and combo'd ult's basically end people no matter what. just seems like you arent that good at reading engagements and get frustrated when you should be killing the healers not the tanks or carries, especially as a starkiller. you flank and end people tbh.
the healing only applies to tanks as well since most carries and healers are sub 400 hp.
hit crits or wait out ults. u sound bad tbh.

Ive been saying this forever, people dont attack the healers at all!

[Obtuse Moose]

Originally posted by ✪ Icey:

Originally posted by Canti:

it really isnt, its a very team orientated game and combo'd ult's basically end people no matter what. just seems like you arent that good at reading engagements and get frustrated when you should be killing the healers not the tanks or carries, especially as a starkiller. you flank and end people tbh.
the healing only applies to tanks as well since most carries and healers are sub 400 hp.
hit crits or wait out ults. u sound bad tbh.

take my golden chest, ive been saying this forever, people dont attack the healers at all!

Play the game and try that with anyone that doesn't have a front-loaded burst ult and tell me how it works out for you.

[MancakeBR]

Originally posted by GrocKing:

Originally posted by Mochan:

It really isn't.

Chief i just got out of a game where i had to dump 2 mags into an enemy as starlord when ulting. The guy went from 1 hp to full hp almost instantly. Like you can't even blame it on my accuracy because I LITERALLY COULDN'T MISS.

If you manage to get competent 2 healers in the game it just feels like a spongefest.

Why are you going after the non supports?

That's a literal skill issue.

Everyone knows when it comes to games like this and even in games like WoW PvP, you always go after the healer first.

[GrocKing]

Originally posted by MancakeBR:

Originally posted by GrocKing:

Chief i just got out of a game where i had to dump 2 mags into an enemy as starlord when ulting. The guy went from 1 hp to full hp almost instantly. Like you can't even blame it on my accuracy because I LITERALLY COULDN'T MISS.

If you manage to get competent 2 healers in the game it just feels like a spongefest.

Why are you going after the non supports?

That's a literal skill issue.

Everyone knows when it comes to games like this and even in games like WoW PvP, you always go after the healer first.

Maybe read first before replying?

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Originally posted by GrocKing:

I was c: The guy i had to dump 2 mags into was a support and was getting healed by another support.

There can be more than 1 support in a game my dude. Better yet they can choose to go 3 support 1 tank 2 dps or whatever comp they want.