NERF HAWK EYE WTF

[Stegosaurus TTV]

How is this dude balanced? One shotting supports, doesn't even have to use his ultimate abilities or anything, just simple M1 click one shot and everyone is dead? Why even use punisher or spiderman, just use one shot man hawk eye lol

[Realm]

Sniper-type characters are lame in general.

[PocketYoda]

As a support player i'm way more worried about a "Surprise" Iron fist or a Spiderman than any Hawkeye.

[Ferrsai]

Ursprünglich geschrieben von maniacal<1>:

I mean Hanzo had one-shot power if you charged, the issue is that Hawkeye has that power at any range. And, while I haven't done any testing, the hit-reg in this game feels atrocious. I've been killed around corners so much, and there's WAY too many heroes that have auto-hit abilities.

Hit reg is terrible. Hitscan, projectile, both just feel off sometimes. Then you'll adjust to the ♥♥♥♥ and get a round where it's normal and you're missing ♥♥♥♥♥ because you're still trying to compensate.

[Raynn von Valancius]

Ursprünglich geschrieben von Null Winter:

Ursprünglich geschrieben von Aven-0ul:

half of these guys are op

Well, specifically in the instance of Hawkeye VS Hanzo...

Hanzo had a long charge, very heavy arrow arc, and zero melee capability. Hawkeye charges fast, has basically no drop, and has a suite of dedicated anti-projectile and anti-melee skills if someone tries to rush him down OR counter-snipe him. As for ults, Hanzo let you know he was launching dragons 3 seconds after he announced it, while Hawkeye instantly puts a free headshottable clone of you right out in the open that you can not counterplay aside from never being in his LOS or being one of the few characters with an ethereal state AND it's active when he pops it.

A lot of the ults in this game are bonkers, though. Scarlet Witch is a flat instakill AOE with free flight so she can hide behind an overhead ledge and move forward at the last second, Iron Man has a fast-moving "kills anything but tanks" AOE projectile, and Jeff can just stop the game for BOTH teams with a huge AOE that grabs everyone on the point and allows him to spit allies out to prep all their combos and heal before he spits enemies into their AOEs... assuming he doesn't just swim off a ledge with them all and win the round. Meanwhile, Peni can... run around doing almost no damage with a bit of overheal and all her normal abilities disabled and Squirrel Girl can drop a destroyable "wave" projectile that only works in hallways.

Many characters have regular abilities that can counter ultimates, though. Cloak's right-click can give the whole team invulnerability to any damage projectile or Scarlet Witch (won't work on Jeff). Dr. Strange can block Ironman and Spiderman's ults easily. Normal stuns can knock everyone from Peni to SW out of their ult animations and waste that use.

Many hard counters are already baked into the characters. Jeff, Moonknight, Punisher, and Starlord are the most annoying ones to me. The first two because the only counter is to get the hell away from it, and the last two because they seem to last a long ass time and put out damage that even tanks have a hard time countering.

[Arson]

Ursprünglich geschrieben von AncientFlames:

Ursprünglich geschrieben von Kogan:

So because overwatch, the game with a MOSTLY NEGATIVE steam review rating had one shot characters like hanzo, this game should do it too right?

This is some of the dumbest logic I've ever seen in my life.

And then you say "the issue is that Hawkeye has that power at any range" as if hanzo couldn't do the same thing.

Hanzo was able to one shot people at any range as well...the character you're using as justification for one shot abilities.

What are you even talking about? You're contradicting yourself and making no sense.

I'm just going to go ahead and assume you were a very low rank player in overwatch and that's why you're so confused.

this is maybe the most retarded comment i've ever read on steam.

LMAO, I responded to this comment, agreeing that this guy wasn't very smart, and got reported for it
Edit: and he's got profile comments turned off lmao, bro cant legit cant read

[Nosgoth]

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[AncientFlames]

Ursprünglich geschrieben von Kogan:

Ursprünglich geschrieben von AncientFlames:

this is maybe the most retarded comment i've ever read on steam.

If the way you form an argument is saying nothing but "this is retarted", your opinion never mattered in the first place, thank you for your useless comment.

Probably a camping widow lover and overwatch shill.

Ah and looking at your steam profile I see you're a weeb, now it all makes sense why you're incapable of contributing anything of value to the discussion.

Damn y’all are really upset about a video game. Enjoy that. I’m sure your mental state is healthy.

[HYSE.hunxue]

stop defending this cheapass oneshot dude. Man's easy af. Also look at this.
https://vt.tiktok.com/ZNeTH1f4x/

[Troll DN Fascist]

he has +20%dmg currently so it makes it very easy to 1 shot most characters in the game rn dont really know if he would be such and issue with out it...
seasonal boosts shouldn't be in the game completely brakes the balance of the heroes that have them... Hela Hawkeye are mega oppressive cuz of em rn

[bladeddragonknight]

Ursprünglich geschrieben von Realm:

Sniper-type characters are lame in general.

Snipers are fine in tactical shooters and war based games but my bloody demon empowered sword maiden or demigod of thunder should not be bodied by a dude with a bow. Look at how they butchered Storm. Game is trash as a power fantasy.

[Ronin Gamer]

Ursprünglich geschrieben von Spencer #MODOKForRivals:

How is this dude balanced? One shotting supports, doesn't even have to use his ultimate abilities or anything, just simple M1 click one shot and everyone is dead? Why even use punisher or spiderman, just use one shot man hawk eye lol

Have you considered protecting the supports? A sniper being able to take out weaker health characters isn't a new concept in any kind of shooter.

[Jesi]

He have double jump... he shouldnt even have a single jump. I mean... one with CD because there are some obstacles and he have to climb somewhere but thats it. Actually... remove all jumps from him and give him climbing so he will be able to do that. Overall all sniper types shouldnt be able to run around jumping like monkeys.

[Ronin Gamer]

Ursprünglich geschrieben von Jesi:

He have double jump... he shouldnt even have a single jump. I mean... one with CD because there are some obstacles and he have to climb somewhere but thats it. Actually... remove all jumps from him and give him climbing so he will be able to do that. Overall all sniper types shouldnt be able to run around jumping like monkeys.

Then focus them? They don't have a ton of health. Learn to dodge or block stuff and take them out. Characters can dive them like spider-man and others, mantis and others can lock them down, these things aren't impossible you just need to get better.
Sneaking up on them also works well.

[whiteboa321]

the problem with the game your having is the game full of cheating pos players who can't aim . an alot of the hero's to strong . an alot of them suck .