NERF HAWK EYE WTF

[Stegosaurus TTV]

How is this dude balanced? One shotting supports, doesn't even have to use his ultimate abilities or anything, just simple M1 click one shot and everyone is dead? Why even use punisher or spiderman, just use one shot man hawk eye lol

[maniacal<1>]

I mean Hanzo had one-shot power if you charged, the issue is that Hawkeye has that power at any range. And, while I haven't done any testing, the hit-reg in this game feels atrocious. I've been killed around corners so much, and there's WAY too many heroes that have auto-hit abilities.

[Kogan]

Originally posted by maniacal<1>:

I mean Hanzo had one-shot power if you charged, the issue is that Hawkeye has that power at any range.

So because overwatch, the game with a MOSTLY NEGATIVE steam review rating had one shot characters like hanzo, this game should do it too right?

This is some of the dumbest logic I've ever seen in my life.

And then you say "the issue is that Hawkeye has that power at any range" as if hanzo couldn't do the same thing.

Hanzo was able to one shot people at any range as well...the character you're using as justification for one shot abilities.

What are you even talking about? You're contradicting yourself and making no sense.

I'm just going to go ahead and assume you were a very low rank player in overwatch and that's why you're so confused.

[AncientFlames]

Originally posted by Kogan:

Originally posted by maniacal<1>:

I mean Hanzo had one-shot power if you charged, the issue is that Hawkeye has that power at any range.

So because overwatch, the game with a MOSTLY NEGATIVE steam review rating had one shot characters like hanzo, this game should do it too right?

This is some of the dumbest logic I've ever seen in my life.

And then you say "the issue is that Hawkeye has that power at any range" as if hanzo couldn't do the same thing.

Hanzo was able to one shot people at any range as well...the character you're using as justification for one shot abilities.

What are you even talking about? You're contradicting yourself and making no sense.

I'm just going to go ahead and assume you were a very low rank player in overwatch and that's why you're so confused.

this is maybe the most retarded comment i've ever read on steam.

[Kogan]

Originally posted by AncientFlames:

Originally posted by Kogan:

So because overwatch, the game with a MOSTLY NEGATIVE steam review rating had one shot characters like hanzo, this game should do it too right?

This is some of the dumbest logic I've ever seen in my life.

And then you say "the issue is that Hawkeye has that power at any range" as if hanzo couldn't do the same thing.

Hanzo was able to one shot people at any range as well...the character you're using as justification for one shot abilities.

What are you even talking about? You're contradicting yourself and making no sense.

I'm just going to go ahead and assume you were a very low rank player in overwatch and that's why you're so confused.

this is maybe the most retarded comment i've ever read on steam.

If the way you form an argument is saying nothing but "this is retarted", your opinion never mattered in the first place, thank you for your useless comment.

Probably a camping widow lover and overwatch shill.

Ah and looking at your steam profile I see you're a weeb, now it all makes sense why you're incapable of contributing anything of value to the discussion.

[SepphorisVT]

Literally swap tank or close up DPS and take him out if he's such a problem.

He's really easy to shut down.

[Corinarh]

You can eat him for a breakfast with a venom/spiderman just swing into him and get free kill.

[Mystic_Phoenix]

Originally posted by maniacal<1>:

I mean Hanzo had one-shot power if you charged, the issue is that Hawkeye has that power at any range. And, while I haven't done any testing, the hit-reg in this game feels atrocious. I've been killed around corners so much, and there's WAY too many heroes that have auto-hit abilities.

Yeah the hitreg is kinda borked, seen it multiple times now where I die and I wasn't anywhere near where the server thinks I was, hopefully they fix that if they want people to actually stay.

[Coldflame]

Originally posted by maniacal<1>:

I mean Hanzo had one-shot power if you charged, the issue is that Hawkeye has that power at any range. And, while I haven't done any testing, the hit-reg in this game feels atrocious. I've been killed around corners so much, and there's WAY too many heroes that have auto-hit abilities.

hanzo had one-shot power

it's comical how much this game recreates issues overwatch had years ago that have since been addressed

[Baxxy.Nut]

Originally posted by Kogan:

Originally posted by maniacal<1>:

I mean Hanzo had one-shot power if you charged, the issue is that Hawkeye has that power at any range.

So because overwatch, the game with a MOSTLY NEGATIVE steam review rating had one shot characters like hanzo, this game should do it too right?

This is some of the dumbest logic I've ever seen in my life.

And then you say "the issue is that Hawkeye has that power at any range" as if hanzo couldn't do the same thing.

Hanzo was able to one shot people at any range as well...the character you're using as justification for one shot abilities.

What are you even talking about? You're contradicting yourself and making no sense.

I'm just going to go ahead and assume you were a very low rank player in overwatch and that's why you're so confused.

lol, it won game of the year with that hero. Game has negative steam reviews because when it launched on steam there were bugs with buying stuff. And then they canceled PvE. It has nothing to do with the actual game. OW is, and always will be, the most refined hero shooter. Cope more.

[Baxxy.Nut]

Originally posted by Coldflame:

Originally posted by maniacal<1>:

I mean Hanzo had one-shot power if you charged, the issue is that Hawkeye has that power at any range. And, while I haven't done any testing, the hit-reg in this game feels atrocious. I've been killed around corners so much, and there's WAY too many heroes that have auto-hit abilities.

hanzo had one-shot power

it's comical how much this game recreates issues overwatch had years ago that have since been addressed

no, HAS one shot power.

[maniacal<1>]

Originally posted by Kogan:

So because overwatch, the game with a MOSTLY NEGATIVE steam review rating had one shot characters like hanzo, this game should do it too right?

This is some of the dumbest logic I've ever seen in my life.

And then you say "the issue is that Hawkeye has that power at any range" as if hanzo couldn't do the same thing.

Hanzo was able to one shot people at any range as well...the character you're using as justification for one shot abilities.

What are you even talking about? You're contradicting yourself and making no sense.

I'm just going to go ahead and assume you were a very low rank player in overwatch and that's why you're so confused.

Calm down, child. Nobody is threatening to take away your binky.
My point is this game is literally an Overwatch clone with Marvel characters, and seeing as how Hawekeye is essentially Hanzo, it's not unreasonable that they have similar metrics.
Also, the original Overwatch was a crazy success.

You take these games WAY too seriously.

[Aven Oul]

Originally posted by Spencer:

How is this dude balanced? One shotting supports, doesn't even have to use his ultimate abilities or anything, just simple M1 click one shot and everyone is dead? Why even use punisher or spiderman, just use one shot man hawk eye lol

half of these guys are op

[Cpt Obvious]

Go play him I bet you will get trashed. His ult is probably the worst one in the game too. Unless your team babysits you as Hawkeye, you gonna be back at the graveyard often.

[Papi Pano]

Originally posted by Spencer:

How is this dude balanced? One shotting supports, doesn't even have to use his ultimate abilities or anything, just simple M1 click one shot and everyone is dead? Why even use punisher or spiderman, just use one shot man hawk eye lol

cope (I'm a hawkeye main)

[Null Winter]

Originally posted by Aven-0ul:

Originally posted by Spencer:

How is this dude balanced? One shotting supports, doesn't even have to use his ultimate abilities or anything, just simple M1 click one shot and everyone is dead? Why even use punisher or spiderman, just use one shot man hawk eye lol

half of these guys are op

Well, specifically in the instance of Hawkeye VS Hanzo...

Hanzo had a long charge, very heavy arrow arc, and zero melee capability. Hawkeye charges fast, has basically no drop, and has a suite of dedicated anti-projectile and anti-melee skills if someone tries to rush him down OR counter-snipe him. As for ults, Hanzo let you know he was launching dragons 3 seconds after he announced it, while Hawkeye instantly puts a free headshottable clone of you right out in the open that you can not counterplay aside from never being in his LOS or being one of the few characters with an ethereal state AND it's active when he pops it.

A lot of the ults in this game are bonkers, though. Scarlet Witch is a flat instakill AOE with free flight so she can hide behind an overhead ledge and move forward at the last second, Iron Man has a fast-moving "kills anything but tanks" AOE projectile, and Jeff can just stop the game for BOTH teams with a huge AOE that grabs everyone on the point and allows him to spit allies out to prep all their combos and heal before he spits enemies into their AOEs... assuming he doesn't just swim off a ledge with them all and win the round. Meanwhile, Peni can... run around doing almost no damage with a bit of overheal and all her normal abilities disabled and Squirrel Girl can drop a destroyable "wave" projectile that only works in hallways.