This patch just kills Jeff completely

[infinity]

I don't know and don't even want to know how strong Jeff is with his double team up (Venom and Storm). They killed him and his whole kit. Now you need to learn Jeff all over again, say bye to your countless hours Jeff-mains.
He was annoying? - Yes. He was unstoppable if enemy was playing like potato? - Yes.
I love devs listening to audience but not when it comes to whiny noob players that can't handle a shark.
If you hate his survivability and that players need to actually learn how to counter him then there are more ideas for you devs:
1. Spider-Man can't swing fast anymore and has only 2 charges. Spider-Tracker doesn't automatically pull you near enemy.
2. Squirl-girl doesn't cause any damage if she wasn't aiming at that specific enemy, her acorn now when shot blindly will heal enemy.
3. Wanda primary attack can't auto-aim anymore. She does more damage but need actually have straight hands and aim like normal players.
4. Moon-Knight anks are broken after his seconds shot.
5. Iron-Fist can't be too far away from his team all the time. After 15 seconds he will start automatically lose health if far away.
6. Rocket-Players need to aim at specific ally and then shoot. Otherwise no healing effect. Brb only works if ally die 5 meter near it.
7. Storm and Hella does't deal so much damage anymore.
8. Human torch is nerfed and now he is human-human.

You get the point. No need to destroy character that hard and throw away so many hours played by a lot of players. If you do complete rework on one character do the same thing on all other characters. Change completely their kit and playstyle.
I really am sad for wasting so many hours on mastering that hero, now that they destroyed him completely and replaced with some team-up fish.

[Brandon]

Jeff needed a rework.

[infinity]

Originally posted by Brandon:

Jeff needed a rework.

Absolutely, his 43% winrate speaks volume. Lets nerf him to the ground and destroy his whole kit that made him fun to play.

[Kitt 🌟 Stargazer]

If it turns out to be truly bad, they could have just saved themselves some trouble and just removed him completely to have the same effect this patch would bring.

[NeonSaltRocket]

Keep it in one thread people. They already reverted a few things.

[RhodosGuard]

Salty Jeff Main Tears sustain me
"Wha, what do you mean I can't just press my dive and occassionally bubble and live forever anymore? such bs"

[The_Dybbuk_King]

Originally posted by infinity:

I don't know and don't even want to know how strong Jeff is with his double team up (Venom and Storm). They killed him and his whole kit. Now you need to learn Jeff all over again, say bye to your countless hours Jeff-mains.
He was annoying? - Yes. He was unstoppable if enemy was playing like potato? - Yes.
I love devs listening to audience but not when it comes to whiny noob players that can't handle a shark.
If you hate his survivability and that players need to actually learn how to counter him then there are more ideas for you devs:
1. Spider-Man can't swing fast anymore and has only 2 charges. Spider-Tracker doesn't automatically pull you near enemy.
2. Squirl-girl doesn't cause any damage if she wasn't aiming at that specific enemy, her acorn now when shot blindly will heal enemy.
3. Wanda primary attack can't auto-aim anymore. She does more damage but need actually have straight hands and aim like normal players.
4. Moon-Knight anks are broken after his seconds shot.
5. Iron-Fist can't be too far away from his team all the time. After 15 seconds he will start automatically lose health if far away.
6. Rocket-Players need to aim at specific ally and then shoot. Otherwise no healing effect. Brb only works if ally die 5 meter near it.
7. Storm and Hella does't deal so much damage anymore.
8. Human torch is nerfed and now he is human-human.

You get the point. No need to destroy character that hard and throw away so many hours played by a lot of players. If you do complete rework on one character do the same thing on all other characters. Change completely their kit and playstyle.
I really am sad for wasting so many hours on mastering that hero, now that they destroyed him completely and replaced with some team-up fish.

This is a lot of words for "I am having a skill issue."

[Silent_Abyss_]

Originally posted by infinity:

Originally posted by Brandon:

Jeff needed a rework.

Absolutely, his 43% winrate speaks volume. Lets nerf him to the ground and destroy his whole kit that made him fun to play.

It does speaks volume. When a Jeff rather use all his bubbles on sustaining himself and stays away from the team, trying to only kill, and leaving the other support to fend for themselves while assisting the team is probably why people dislike having him on the team. It's not all Jeff players but it does feel like a high amount that have that playstyle.

[infinity]

Originally posted by RhodosGuard:

Salty Jeff Main Tears sustain me
"Wha, what do you mean I can't just press my dive and occassionally bubble and live forever anymore? such bs"

sounds like a skill issue to me, jeff can be killed while he submerges to heal himself or while he is healing allies, if he is not submerging he is useless, but what the reason to explain player from paper 1 rank.

[I live to k1ll]

Originally posted by NeonSaltRocket:

Keep it in one thread people. They already reverted a few things.

Reverted what lol

[RhodosGuard]

Originally posted by infinity:

Originally posted by RhodosGuard:

Salty Jeff Main Tears sustain me
"Wha, what do you mean I can't just press my dive and occassionally bubble and live forever anymore? such bs"

sounds like a skill issue to me, jeff can be killed while he submerges to heal himself or while he is healing allies, if he is not submerging he is useless, but what the reason to explain player from paper 1 rank.

Jeff Players calling Skill issue is the funniest ♥♥♥♥ in the universe.
A heal you barely have to aim
12 bubbles that heal and give 2 buffs.
An ability that turns your hitbox into 6 visible pixels, makes you faster, heals you and is inifnitely usable
An AoE the SIze of Iron Man Shots.

"If you cant hit my 6 visible pixels while I only come up for 2 frames to pick up the bubble i just laid down that heals me to full just before I now go back into the ground to heal even more and get even faster, that's a skill issue"

The fact that you whinge over now rightfully requiring at least a few braincells to play jeff shows who reall has the skill issue.

But sure, keep complaining bruv.

The reason Jeff was underperforming was because he was classified as a strategist, but was ♥♥♥♥ if he was played like one, so everyone instead plays him as a flank duelist, where your main role isnt even killing people, it's being annoying and wasting peoples time.

If you got killed, as jeff, while flanking, the real skill issue is you being bad at pressing the 2 buttons that keep you alive, a playstyle a monkey could do.

[infinity]

Originally posted by RhodosGuard:

Originally posted by infinity:

sounds like a skill issue to me, jeff can be killed while he submerges to heal himself or while he is healing allies, if he is not submerging he is useless, but what the reason to explain player from paper 1 rank.

Jeff Players calling Skill issue is the funniest ♥♥♥♥ in the universe.
A heal you barely have to aim
12 bubbles that heal and give 2 buffs.
An ability that turns your hitbox into 6 visible pixels, makes you faster, heals you and is inifnitely usable
An AoE the SIze of Iron Man Shots.

"If you cant hit my 6 visible pixels while I only come up for 2 frames to pick up the bubble i just laid down that heals me to full just before I now go back into the ground to heal even more and get even faster, that's a skill issue"

The fact that you whinge over now rightfully requiring at least a few braincells to play jeff shows who reall has the skill issue.

But sure, keep complaining bruv.

The reason Jeff was underperforming was because he was classified as a strategist, but was ♥♥♥♥ if he was played like one, so everyone instead plays him as a flank duelist, where your main role isnt even killing people, it's being annoying and wasting peoples time.

If you got killed, as jeff, while flanking, the real skill issue is you being bad at pressing the 2 buttons that keep you alive, a playstyle a monkey could do.

First of all he has 6 bubbles not 12. That just shows you never even tried to play jeff cause you don't have any brain cells to do so. I guess you are just one of the whiny little noob-healer that can't cross silver 2 rank and blame jeff, spider-man, his mom and the whole world for being that bad.
If you want to pretend you know anything about the game mechanic read next time about hero or watch some video explaining (it only takes 2 minutes; won't get past your ADHD limited attention).

[NeonSaltRocket]

Originally posted by I live to k1ll:

Originally posted by NeonSaltRocket:

Keep it in one thread people. They already reverted a few things.

Reverted what lol

As I understand, the hide and seek healing changes were removed, enemies no longer block healing and the heal amount went from 150>130 instead of 150>100

[RhodosGuard]

Originally posted by infinity:

Originally posted by RhodosGuard:

Jeff Players calling Skill issue is the funniest ♥♥♥♥ in the universe.
A heal you barely have to aim
12 bubbles that heal and give 2 buffs.
An ability that turns your hitbox into 6 visible pixels, makes you faster, heals you and is inifnitely usable
An AoE the SIze of Iron Man Shots.

"If you cant hit my 6 visible pixels while I only come up for 2 frames to pick up the bubble i just laid down that heals me to full just before I now go back into the ground to heal even more and get even faster, that's a skill issue"

The fact that you whinge over now rightfully requiring at least a few braincells to play jeff shows who reall has the skill issue.

But sure, keep complaining bruv.

The reason Jeff was underperforming was because he was classified as a strategist, but was ♥♥♥♥ if he was played like one, so everyone instead plays him as a flank duelist, where your main role isnt even killing people, it's being annoying and wasting peoples time.

If you got killed, as jeff, while flanking, the real skill issue is you being bad at pressing the 2 buttons that keep you alive, a playstyle a monkey could do.

First of all he has 6 bubbles not 12. That just shows you never even tried to play jeff cause you don't have any brain cells to do so. I guess you are just one of the whiny little noob-healer that can't cross silver 2 rank and blame jeff, spider-man, his mom and the whole world for being that bad.
If you want to pretend you know anything about the game mechanic read next time about hero or watch some video explaining (it only takes 2 minutes; won't get past your ADHD limited attention).

Sure buddy boo.

[Yoshinite]

Originally posted by RhodosGuard:

Salty Jeff Main Tears sustain me
"Wha, what do you mean I can't just press my dive and occassionally bubble and live forever anymore? such bs"

Are you hardstuck on Bronze or Silver by chance? if you're whining about Jeff, then you probably are.

[lacres181]

Originally posted by RhodosGuard:

Originally posted by infinity:

First of all he has 6 bubbles not 12. That just shows you never even tried to play jeff cause you don't have any brain cells to do so. I guess you are just one of the whiny little noob-healer that can't cross silver 2 rank and blame jeff, spider-man, his mom and the whole world for being that bad.
If you want to pretend you know anything about the game mechanic read next time about hero or watch some video explaining (it only takes 2 minutes; won't get past your ADHD limited attention).

Sure buddy boo.

by the way your explaining how YOU play jeff, im sure i ran into you as the enemy side.
and kicked your teams butt, because you wanted to be a "DPS SUPPORT" failing to get anyone but your allies with Jeffs ult, and when you did, you got pissed on HARD, and couldnt get anywhere, blamed it on the "spiderman" that doesnt exist, just like jeffs "12 bubbles"