Forcing everyone down rankings ruined competitive mode

[King of Evil]

Why did the devs think putting everyone from higher ranks back down into lower ranks was a good idea? Now Bronze rank is F'd beyond all reason & will probably never recover. I was able to get out of Bronze in S1 in the first day, then from Silver into Gold in about 5 days. Now, I've been stuck in Bronze since the reset & it feels like I'm never getting out of Bronze ever again... You can say it's a skill issue, you can blame EOMM like I've been doing, but really it's the reset that broke the entire system. GG guys.

[Terotrous]

I agree that it's a mess, but I can explain why they did it.

First of all, it's to keep people playing. If you could just get to Celestial and just stay there a lot of people would just there there once and then stop playing Ranked mode, causing it to stagnate.

Secondly, it's to try to make the rankings more reflective of player skill. The devs adjusted the rating system this season to make it harder to rank up (you now lose more rank points for losing matches at lower ranks, so the "rank inflation" is largely gone). As such, many players won't be able to climb as high as before and this is the intention as a lot of people complained about this.

[dag]

Highest rank going into Bronze is Plat. That means you’re only going against Plat players at worst. And that’s not a big step up from Bronze. If you’re hard stuck Bronze, you deserve to be there.

[King of Evil]

Originally posted by Terotrous:

I agree that it's a mess, but I can explain why they did it.

First of all, it's to keep people playing. If you could just get to Celestial and just stay there a lot of people would just there there once and then stop playing Ranked mode, causing it to stagnate.

Secondly, it's to try to make the rankings more reflective of player skill. The devs adjusted the rating system this season to make it harder to rank up (you now lose more rank points for losing matches at lower ranks, so the "rank inflation" is largely gone). As such, many players won't be able to climb as high as before and this is the intention as a lot of people complained about this.

The problem with this is they are actually rigging the system & forcing players to stay in bronze by making it this way. Making it harder to climb out of the lower ranks just ensures everyone is going to stay lower ranks except for team stackers. It also punishes everyone not in the top ranks, because THOSE players still remain above platinum & don't have to deal with the low ELO hellscape that is now the Bronze tier.

[XacTi]

If you are in lower ranks, you may want to wait a week or two. It hasn't been a week already

[Zeke]

...What? It took you 5 DAYS to get to gold last season? Took me 5 hours to go from bronze to diamond. I did it in 1 sitting minus eating lunch.

You're just not as good as you think you are. Lol.

[Arizona Fruit Punch™]

If you can't climb out, you belong there. You somehow scraping your way to gold or plat last season by sheer luck doesn't mean you belong there. Anyone who is actually good at the game is out of the pit already. Sorry to be the one to tell you this.

[King of Evil]

Originally posted by Zeke:

...What? It took you 5 DAYS to get to gold last season? Took me 5 hours to go from bronze to diamond. I did it in 1 sitting minus eating lunch.

You're just not as good as you think you are. Lol.

I did it mostly during the last week of Season 1.5 during all the smurfing & a lot of the matches were 15-20 minutes long, but some were over 30-40 minutes & I only play around 1-2 hours a day & I'm solo queueing the entire time. I can't play the game constantly like some people.

[Rauf]

RANK reset due to EOMM, not because of everyone asking for a rank reset and ranked games will be better so devs did what they asked for, its EOMM

Its not that ranked is now more competitive due to rank going down so you get more skilled players than you in your games, its EOMM

[Rauf]

Originally posted by Arizona Fruit Punch™:

If you can't climb out, you belong there. You somehow scraping your way to gold or plat last season by sheer luck doesn't mean you belong there. Anyone who is actually good at the game is out of the pit already. Sorry to be the one to tell you this.

THATS not true bro i can prove to you EOMM is real, you know how some people get born rich family and some people born poor? its due to EOMM placing them there, its not because of entirely on luck/randomly where you born or who you born as its EOMM

[King of Evil]

Originally posted by Rauf:

RANK reset due to EOMM, not because of everyone asking for a rank reset and ranked games will be better so devs did what they asked for, its EOMM

Its not that ranked is now more competitive due to rank going down so you get more skilled players than you in your games, its EOMM

Do you seriously have to troll every thread on here?

[Rauf]

Originally posted by King of Evil:

Originally posted by Rauf:

RANK reset due to EOMM, not because of everyone asking for a rank reset and ranked games will be better so devs did what they asked for, its EOMM

Its not that ranked is now more competitive due to rank going down so you get more skilled players than you in your games, its EOMM

Do you seriously have to troll every thread on here?

I apologize, but all things considered its best for you to wait for 2 weeks from now or 1 month to wait for ranked ladder to inflate, maybe when people start reaching max rank then you start playing so its less competitive and harsh in ranked games. There, i gave you a logical answer and solution.

its funny because ppl dont know what theyre talking about, they want rank reset it would fix everything then in S2 it happen people still not happy then EOMM complainers say that it ruins the game when theres a good chance its not even in the game and it would be better if it did exist and people would complain less its so funny.

[Rauf]

right now im grandmaster tier skill level in marvel rivals (in terms of S1 and 1.5) a grandmaster player right now in S2 will be more skilled than me if you can even understand, so truthfully speaking in order for you to leave bronze is to fill people who are even worse than you in bronze so you get promoted to silver

[Steve]

Originally posted by King of Evil:

Why did the devs think putting everyone from higher ranks back down into lower ranks was a good idea?

First time?

Ranked seasons in most games have a reset at the start of a new season, and sometimes midseason depending. This is common, and a good thing overall for the playerbase.

No one improves skill in an echo chamber. If players are playing the same people day in and day out, it gets old. That's what eventually happens if there are no resets -- eventually, everyone climbs into the top tier, much like everyone hitting level cap in an MMO. If allowed to continue climbing unchecked, the ranks get top-heavy and become meaningless as a marker of skill.

Listen. Not everyone is OAA material. Hell, not everyone is GM material. It is what it is. Ranked does not exist to cater to everyone. There are no trophies for participation in a good ranked game.

Call it gatekeeping if you want, but that's the point of a skill-based game. The skillful prosper. The unskilled... well, learn or leave. Not everyone gets a happy ending in life.

[ovettwarrior]

I've had the same issue. I was plat last season and made my way there solo. Now i'm going up against diamonds and grandmaster in silver and can never get out of it. Literally had a grandmaster admit to boosting their friend up to higher ranks and ruining the experience for everyone else.

[c0hKaine]

Originally posted by Terotrous:

I agree that it's a mess, but I can explain why they did it.

First of all, it's to keep people playing. If you could just get to Celestial and just stay there a lot of people would just there there once and then stop playing Ranked mode, causing it to stagnate.

Game stagnates because its a one dimensional game. putting players back into an arbitrary rank isn't going to do anything about that. it will just agitate the issue and force the churn faster because new players cant learn fast enough to care. it didn't help that this game is an overwatch clone which, overwatch, is dead and trash.