Your thoughts on the new balance changes?

[Newtox]

you think the game will gain more players or lose them?

[Spooki Spoopi]

Gain, absolutely gain. The reason? Them thighs. IYKYK.

[glaphen]

They were mostly fine, I don't think any of the tanks needed any nerfs, they are already a weaker role, rest got light buffs that barely change much, Peni buffs were huge though, biggest buff in the game since launch. Don't know why they nerfed Scarlet Witch, she's better than people say but not needing to be nerfed tier, why they keep buffing Hawkeye I have no ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ clue, why they gave Hela even compensation buffs to the small nerf I don't know, why they nerfed Wolverine I have no idea, he's not nearly as good as ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ banning him think, they massively overbuffed Human Torch, he was already good, just people playing a shotgun characters from afar and wondering why their damage is low, even though they have highest damage usually anyway, not nearly enough nerfs to Bucky, I never gave a ♥♥♥♥ about his ultimate, DISGUSTING BLACK WIDOW BUFF, ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ don't realize how disgusting she is already at melee range, now she is just auto free win at melee range, she can combo anyone for over 655 damage with no counterplay, good job, not enough buffs to Iron Fist, barely affects him, why they insist on giving him such low damage I have no idea, at least he isn't the worst DPS in the game against tanks now, just not better than any of the META ranged anyway still, rest of the buffs are fine. Still baby nerfs to strategists, whole kit is over stacked, dive doesn't need many buffs if they just nerf strategists from being so self sufficient, at least outside of tourneys. Rocket buff is disgusting, buff his healbot play style to be even more brain dead effective now as the best AoE healer in the game by far but nerfed his intended play style of DPS strategist, least Iron Fist is better at killing him if he gets no help, but the rest are still just as useless against him.

Scarlet Witch team-up looks disgusting DPS wise, so I can only assume they nerfed her so much because of the team-up, but if you don't have a Strange she is just worse than before...?

[Newtox]

Originally posted by glaphen:

They were mostly fine, I don't think any of the tanks needed any nerfs, they are already a weaker role, rest got light buffs that barely change much, Peni buffs were huge though, biggest buff in the game since launch. Don't know why they nerfed Scarlet Witch, she's better than people say but not needing to be nerfed tier, why they keep buffing Hawkeye I have no ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ clue, why they gave Hela even compensation buffs to the small nerf I don't know, why they nerfed Wolverine I have no idea, he's not nearly as good as ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ banning him think, they massively overbuffed Human Torch, he was already good, just people playing a shotgun characters from afar and wondering why their damage is low, even though they have highest damage usually anyway, not nearly enough nerfs to Bucky, I never gave a ♥♥♥♥ about his ultimate, DISGUSTING BLACK WIDOW BUFF, ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ don't realize how disgusting she is already at melee range, now she is just auto free win at melee range, she can combo anyone for over 655 damage with no counterplay, good job, not enough buffs to Iron Fist, barely affects him, why they insist on giving him such low damage I have no idea, at least he isn't the worst DPS in the game against tanks now, just not better than any of the META ranged anyway still, rest of the buffs are fine. Still baby nerfs to strategists, whole kit is over stacked, dive doesn't need many buffs if they just nerf strategists from being so self sufficient, at least outside of tourneys. Rocket buff is disgusting, buff his healbot play style to be even more brain dead effective now as the best AoE healer in the game by far but nerfed his intended play style of DPS strategist, least Iron Fist is better at killing him if he gets no help, but the rest are still just as useless against him.

Scarlet Witch team-up looks disgusting DPS wise, so I can only assume they nerfed her so much because of the team-up, but if you don't have a Strange she is just worse than before...?

So most changes basically suck or were not needed?

[Deadman'shand]

Originally posted by glaphen:

They were mostly fine, I don't think any of the tanks needed any nerfs, they are already a weaker role, rest got light buffs that barely change much, Peni buffs were huge though, biggest buff in the game since launch. Don't know why they nerfed Scarlet Witch, she's better than people say but not needing to be nerfed tier, why they keep buffing Hawkeye I have no ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ clue, why they gave Hela even compensation buffs to the small nerf I don't know, why they nerfed Wolverine I have no idea, he's not nearly as good as ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ banning him think, they massively overbuffed Human Torch, he was already good, just people playing a shotgun characters from afar and wondering why their damage is low, even though they have highest damage usually anyway, not nearly enough nerfs to Bucky, I never gave a ♥♥♥♥ about his ultimate, DISGUSTING BLACK WIDOW BUFF, ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ don't realize how disgusting she is already at melee range, now she is just auto free win at melee range, she can combo anyone for over 655 damage with no counterplay, good job, not enough buffs to Iron Fist, barely affects him, why they insist on giving him such low damage I have no idea, at least he isn't the worst DPS in the game against tanks now, just not better than any of the META ranged anyway still, rest of the buffs are fine. Still baby nerfs to strategists, whole kit is over stacked, dive doesn't need many buffs if they just nerf strategists from being so self sufficient, at least outside of tourneys. Rocket buff is disgusting, buff his healbot play style to be even more brain dead effective now as the best AoE healer in the game by far but nerfed his intended play style of DPS strategist, least Iron Fist is better at killing him if he gets no help, but the rest are still just as useless against him.

Scarlet Witch team-up looks disgusting DPS wise, so I can only assume they nerfed her so much because of the team-up, but if you don't have a Strange she is just worse than before...?

The fact Hawkeye is getting buffed is absolutely ridiculous. The ♥♥♥♥ can already delete a majority of the cast by himself, tanks included, and they decided to make him shoot faster? someone at Netease is taking the piss.

[NeonSaltRocket]

The whole idea is to speed up game play so that would involve more damage/deaths while avoiding too much downsides to tank characters overall. So mostly beneficial for the largest player base, provided they don't mind going to the spawn room more often.

[ciswhiteheterosexualmalenumber2]

The good is the thor buff (my goat), mr fantastic buff, and the bucky nerf.

The bad is

1. The fact that annoying characters like moonknight, peni, and scarlet are getting significant buffs.
2. The characters they said were getting reworks, like strange and cap, are just getting plain nerfs
3. iron fist dealing even less damage
4. no namor nerf keeping him firmly in the meta
5. nothing to shake up the current relationship between dives and anti dives.

[rjsmith86]

I expect the usual spike then slow drop back to around whatever the current numbers are. At this point I don't expect the game to really draw players in any significant way

[glaphen]

Originally posted by ciswhiteheterosexualmalenumber2:

The good is the thor buff (my goat), mr fantastic buff, and the bucky nerf.

The bad is

1. The fact that annoying characters like moonknight, peni, and scarlet are getting significant buffs.
2. The characters they said were getting reworks, like strange and cap, are just getting plain nerfs
3. iron fist dealing even less damage
4. no namor nerf keeping him firmly in the meta
5. nothing to shake up the current relationship between dives and anti dives.

I mean these characters were only good at low ranks at all, Moon Knight you need to be good at head shotting for him to be any effective at higher ranks but he had the worst survivability by far, just a free kill with his fat hitbox and slow mobility yet lowest health, Peni buffs were pretty perfect, she was overpowered at low ranks because people too dumb to fight her, but useless at high ranks since the only part of her kit any good is countered by purely enemy skill, changes barely buff her at all at low ranks but massively buff her at high ranks, pretty perfect change, Scarlet was nerfed, she lost her 10% damage team up so she got 5.75 DPS against 250 and lost a massive amount against tanks, while her right clicks do a whole 3 more damage, but she lost an insane amount of mobility which was her only good point, can only assume team-up being amazing if you can aim is the reason she was nerfed.

Strange got 100 health and Captain America got 75 health at the cost of 50 shield health and a 5% damage buff, anchor buffs are active without the team-up needed.

He actually deals the exact same damage against 250, so it's just purely buffs against higher health, meditate was already trash so who cares, 2 second cooldown is huge just not enough.

Namor was only good because of Luna team-up, now you need a Hulk which isn't as popular as Luna at all, no idea about the squid stats though yet.