This community made Marvel Rivals lose 75% of it's players.

[Berzerk]

Just checked player count for Rivals and is a shame: https://steamdb.info/app/2767030/charts/

The game that was having 600k concurrent players on steam 2 months ago, today is struggling to reach 200k concurrent players on steam. Only 2 months after it's release Marvel Rivals already lost 74% of it's players.

I know a lot of you will think "Ahh that's normal for games lose players after some time".
No is not. It could be true if we were talking about a PvE game like Monster Hunter, Palword or whatever, but no, we're talking about a free pvp live service game! We have pretty good examples of live service games where player base increases day after day, year after year for a few years:

Rivals (https://steamdb.info/app/2767030/charts/):
S1 release: 644k
3 months later: 180k.
1 year later: ???

Apex Legends (https://steamdb.info/app/1172470/charts/):
Release: 130k
3 months later: 200k
1 year later: 300k

CS:GO (2014) (https://steamdb.info/app/730/charts/):
Release: 50k
3 months later: 70k
10 years later: 1.2M

Dota 2: (https://steamdb.info/app/570/charts/#max)
Release: 400k
3 months later: 550k
1 year later: 900k

We don't have public stats for other great live services like Fornite, Valorant, GTAV Online..., but according Twitch numbers and news, the trends are the same. Btw Fornite just beat the records of 14M concurrent players 8 years after it's release!

So no, it's not normal for great games to significantly lose players after some time, the truth is, Marvel Rivals is not a great game, in fact is a completely failure!
Marvel IP hype was carrying this game success during the first months, but the honeymoon is over, real players are playing real games now, only casuals left here or Marvel Comics fans.

Now who the hell killed Marvel Rivals?
Answer is simple: You did

I was hoping this to be the real OW killer but is not. In fact Marvel Rivals learnt nothing with OW mistakes. The lack of Role Queue in this game makes the game experience a very awful for a lot of players. This is the only game where the frustrations start even before the match starts, simply by looking at my team picks with 4 DPS. I already got tired of this, that's the reason I stopped playing more than 1 month ago...

Not only the devs are incompetent to satisfy their players wishes, but a big part of the community supports the devs. Why the hell would someone be opposed to Role Queue? We can literally choose if we want play RQ or OQ in the main menu!!

Open Queue players click in Open Queue button
Role Queue players click in Role Queue button

Why would someone be against Role Queue when we literally can chose what we want to play in the main menu?
Look at what you have caused: https://steamdb.info/app/2767030/charts/#max
Players are leaving because OQ means frustration after frustration, even before the match starts! We need to be able to choose what we want to play!
I know a lot of players who have the same tough as I and stopped playing because of this.

And don't come with "Role Queue Killed OW" because it didn't.
I was there at that moment! Role Queue was added in a moment OW was close to die, and in fact Role Queue saved OW. There is a reason why 90% of OW players play mainly RQ...
Is a shame, I hate OW more than all of you and was expecting Rivals to be the real OW killer, but is not, considering other problems like EOMM, Bots, Optimization, this game may be a worst ♥♥♥♥ than OW, and big part of that was caused by this community.

[ColdFire]

Slow rolling out of balancing patches and painfull queue and loot of cheater in higher ranks.
Kinda done it for me.

[Musoko]

Another OW killer bites the dust, add it to the list

[Rayman.]

rage baiters going wild as usual

[RealK]

Originally posted by Musoko:

Another OW killer bites the dust, add it to the list

Fun fact: In last 2 months while Rivals lost 70% of their players, OW2 increased 100% their player count.

I don't think OW will die soon, in fact giving the quantity of players on Blizzard launcher and consoles, OW may have at this time more players than Rivals.

[Kitt 🌟 Stargazer]

That's Awesome!

[JG2thend]

steam level 0 making yet another thread that's been made 100 times already block and move on

[Teddy Roosevelt]

LOL you are comparing the game to the top 5 games on steam that are live services. Kinda apples to oranges there isnt it? Not every game is going to be a wild runaway success. Lets check some other numbers for hype shall we?

Monster hunter: Wilds
Peak count less than a month ago? over 1 million players
Count now? barely 200k
Still the people playing it love it. That just normal for hype. It had the monster hunter hype.

Palworld? People love it. 2m down to 50k in a few months. Completely normal hype drop off. It had hype by being a pokemon clone.

See you took some games that had abnormal growth and tried to compare them to a normal live services. But when you look at other live service games that ran on hype and had huge number drop offs but are still enjoyed by the playerbase, they tend to have drop off of close to 80 or 90% before stabilizing.


And no, role queue isnt the boogeyman anymore than EOMM is

[Tung Tung Sahur]

Should have added role que. I got so tired of 4-5 people insta locking dps every game. Simply not fun to play anymore!

[Steve]

Originally posted by Child po:

Should have added role que. I got so tired of 4-5 people insta locking dps every game. Simply not fun to play anymore!

I would prefer to just see the lot that need role queue move on to another game, preferably one that already has role queue.

This game doesn't need it.

[The Archivist]

Originally posted by Musoko:

Another OW killer bites the dust, add it to the list

Originally posted by RealK:

Originally posted by Musoko:

Another OW killer bites the dust, add it to the list

Fun fact: In last 2 months while Rivals lost 70% of their players, OW2 increased 100% their player count.

I don't think OW will die soon, in fact giving the quantity of players on Blizzard launcher and consoles, OW may have at this time more players than Rivals.

I don't care how many hype men Blizzard sends, I am not going to play Overwatch.

The game certainly has it's flaws, but I am finding my time spent in Rivals to be infinitely more enjoyable than in Overwatch.

[Captain Blue]

As always it's usually the cheaters that create unnatural unwinnable games that slowly erodes peoples will to play the game.

A lot of the cheaters in this game let you get an easy win in the first round or let you push far on convoy easy then they flip the switch and start cheating and the games quickly becomes impossible to win.

The pattern is so boring an obvious and it happens in Grand Master where it should make no sense for a team that got steam rolled suddenly and magically become unstoppable. there really should not be any steam rolling in Diamond and Above at all. They all should be close ish games.

[Berzerk]

Originally posted by Teddy Roosevelt:

LOL you are comparing the game to the top 5 games on steam that are live services. Kinda apples to oranges there isnt it? Not every game is going to be a wild runaway success. Lets check some other numbers for hype shall we?

Monster hunter: Wilds
Peak count less than a month ago? over 1 million players
Count now? barely 200k
Still the people playing it love it. That just normal for hype. It had the monster hunter hype.

Palworld? People love it. 2m down to 50k in a few months. Completely normal hype drop off. It had hype by being a pokemon clone.

See you took some games that had abnormal growth and tried to compare them to a normal live services. But when you look at other live service games that ran on hype and had huge number drop offs but are still enjoyed by the playerbase, they tend to have drop off of close to 80 or 90% before stabilizing.


And no, role queue isnt the boogeyman anymore than EOMM is

All games that I listed are in the same model aren't they? They are F2P PvP games. You just listed paid PvE games, there is a huge difference...

In PvE mostly players get annoyed once the main campaign is finished so they tend to quit the game is normal, in PvP players become dedicated to improve their skill, if they really like the game they can easily play the game for years and spend thousand of hours playing it, specially if they have friends playing same game and all. That's why the games that I listed (CS, Fornite, Apex, Valorant...) are able making huge success for years, they can even increase their player base after some years! Players become dedicated because the game is really good.

Meanwhile this is not happening with Rivals, players are leaving day after day, when it got released with 600k players, this game seem to had the potential to be on that list, among the best, but time in fact time proved that this game is just another Chinese crap like no other, maybe not even better than Fragpunk that just came out, but the initial hype was caused because this was in fact a Marvel IP game, and a game that was not really so bad in fact like the other Marvel games.

I feel a little disappointed, at the beginning I kinda liked the game, but the constant frustrations with team because their picks made me finally quit. The lack of RQ in this game is really disappointing and a big mistake. The trends are proving it. I hate to say this, but even OW2 could do better in it's initial seasons, and it was a completely failure without Marvel in it's name.

[Rayman.]

Originally posted by The Archivist:

Originally posted by Musoko:

Another OW killer bites the dust, add it to the list

Originally posted by RealK:

Fun fact: In last 2 months while Rivals lost 70% of their players, OW2 increased 100% their player count.

I don't think OW will die soon, in fact giving the quantity of players on Blizzard launcher and consoles, OW may have at this time more players than Rivals.

I don't care how many hype men Blizzard sends, I am not going to play Overwatch.

The game certainly has it's flaws, but I am finding my time spent in Rivals to be infinitely more enjoyable than in Overwatch.

Agree with this one. I only play for lootboxes but most of they don't understand or even care how Blizzard is treating em and they still doing that. An incoming new complete mode called stadium which took em 2 years and kinda looks like deadlock inspiration. I bet some spicy drama will come soon.

[Heka]

Originally posted by dnvrs:

Fully agree, as someone open to playing all roles i main thor, the thing,wanda, adam and c&d and can heal with any healer i insta lose all the motivation to play when i see insta dps lockers. Plain a tank in this game sucks its not rewarding at all, and healers usually do their part.

its good people like you are speaking out, there are users who pretend that every role in every scenario is always fun and if its not its problem with you and not the game.

[Arc]

The game is doomed to die unless they
A:
Remove the forced bot matches. No, your "jut play comp" cope doesn't work. 99% of any given game does not play comp. Or want to.
B:
Fix the blatantly broken, 0 counterplay ults, like Storms (invincible AND invisible on startup, immune to CC, can move faster than you AND slow you thanks to her E, kills in 2-3 ticks v most of the cast), AGAIN (why does this reset on assists? It shouldn't be not only possible but easy to kill the same guy with this ult because it lasted so long they respawned during it), etc
C:
Do something about divers which are either unfair (Spiderman pulls you off the map as a character with no mobility; you just die, there's no counterplay as someone like Groot to this) or the majority of the playerbase can't fight (Iron Fist; you just shoot him and he dies, but the fact is 99% of the playerbase are playing casual and bad at the game, they're going to die to him too many times and uninstall)
D:
Fix the overtuned healing
As is the game is a matter of shooting unkillable targets because healing vastly outperforms so much of the casts DPS until you get ult and instantly win OR you pick the broken meta characters