Ok, I've been convinced. It's time to nerf Spider-Man.

[Mitrovarr]

I am sick of him being in every game. I would really like to get to play other healers than Rocket because Spider-Man is relentlessly hunting me the entire game. I know he has counters, but maybe the fact that he's so aggressively countered should be a sign. I'm just sick of death of facing this character every single game!

[Nanashi]

I like a challenge but then I again I mostly play Widow and her response is to learn how to reliably shoot it. Spiderman is a difficult character to become a serious threat with there definitely are characters like Rocket Raccoon who have no response to spiderman and I know how many players loathe to rely on their allies to protect them.

So often in matches I'm faced against spiderman I get yelled at for my lack of kills but they complete don't get that most of them are against the Lord Spiderman on the enemy team who would otherwise steamroll the unprepared comp we have. Groot ain't going to stop him.

I can understand your frustration but I would rather have Spiderman be the top character than a mechanically much easier alternative Scarlet Witch is a good example of a character I hate she is all tactical knowledge as her mechanics are very easy and even then she has a get out of jail free card as well.

At max I could agree to give spiderman a cap of 4 web shots rather than 5 making him more difficult to play and even more in and out but I would not touch the character. Its awesome to see what really dedicated players do with him and his playstyle just looks interesting and fun.

[Mitrovarr]

I like a challenge too. The problem is that the challenge is "how not to be beaten by Spider-Man" and the challenge is now every single game. I liked the game better when there was some diversity in threats.

He also severely reduces your options as a support player. Most supports get completely wrecked by a good Spider-Man player. The only ones that don't are Rocket, who can bust out of a combo and escape, although a good Spider-Man can kill him too, and maybe Jeff.

Like I used to play all the supports some of the time, but now I find that I'm finishing the round on Rocket pretty much every time because anything else is just food for Spider-Man.

[Nanashi]

Winter Soldier is more overpowered in my opinion.

[Timbermaw]

maybe in season 2

[Shidoitsukawaii]

Spiderman already has low health in the game. Iron fist will reck him in a 1v1. Even if you have to play counter characters or not. Spiderman is what makes him great because he's mobile and fast. just get gud.

[Polyurethane]

I agree with OP. He's in every game. I don't always see the spiderman do well but I really don't care. I'm sick of playing against him every game. Often there's one on both sides. His mobility is too insane for only having to land a single right click to fully combo most squishies.

[Mitrovarr]

Originally posted by Nanashi:

Winter Soldier is more overpowered in my opinion.

Let's have nerfs for both! But yes I agree. He's more of an actual problem. Spider-Man is more a quality of life issue, he's just so ridiculously overplayed and requires specific characters to counter him.

[Piderman]

Originally posted by Mitrovarr:

He's more of an actual problem. Spider-Man is more a quality of life issue, he's just so ridiculously overplayed and requires specific characters to counter him.

There are more people that play Bucky than Spiderman and hes mostly banned above gold for a reason.

[Mewsha]

Same, but they won't nerf him for a while I fear.

Gotta sell those skins.

[Teddy Roosevelt]

Originally posted by Mitrovarr:

I am sick of him being in every game. I would really like to get to play other healers than Rocket because Spider-Man is relentlessly hunting me the entire game. I know he has counters, but maybe the fact that he's so aggressively countered should be a sign. I'm just sick of death of facing this character every single game!

Just counter pick him? Lunas freeze attack is very effective against him and can lead to easy kills. cloak and dagger are a direct counter. Jeff can just swim away. Plenty of DPS hard counter spiderman as well as some tanks like peni.

[Mitrovarr]

Originally posted by Teddy Roosevelt:

Just counter pick him? Lunas freeze attack is very effective against him and can lead to easy kills. cloak and dagger are a direct counter. Jeff can just swim away. Plenty of DPS hard counter spiderman as well as some tanks like peni.

That's the main crux of my argument. Spider-Man is so heavily played that the obligation to counter-pick him is making the game unpleasant to play. Also Luna and Cloak are useless against a good Spider-Man, you will never land the ice on a decent player and I don't even know what you were planning on doing to counter them on Cloak (like try to duel them? they'll just run away and then pop in and combo you to death while you're healing).

[gordo yakuza]

agree, i cant stand that mtfkr

[Mitrovarr]

I would also accept more and better counters, preferably on tank or support, as a solution to this. Specifically I want a support that can do more to protect their team from him, not just avoid death.

[Steve]

Originally posted by Mitrovarr:

I would also accept more and better counters, preferably on tank or support, as a solution to this. Specifically I want a support that can do more to protect their team from him, not just avoid death.

There's already several crowd control options, though?

[Mitrovarr]

Originally posted by Steve:

There's already several crowd control options, though?

Most of them are slow projectiles which means they're mostly useless against Spider-Man. The only one who has anything really helpful in terms of getting rid of Spider-Man is IW with the force push/pull, but it's somewhat harmed by IW herself being fairly easy for Spider-Man to kill.