i think dive may need a nerf

[azure agate 03]

right now it feels like dive is just a nerf to namor away from being really OP and im wondering what do you think could be done to prevent it

[Twiggly Wiggly]

I feel like if you are hard to hit, you should have as much health as someone who is easy to hit.

[Carnifex]

Dive does NOT need a nerf, sustain is really strong in the game to survive dive comps. Also Namor eats dive comps for breakfast and is a better flanker than the actual flanker heroes

[Shadow604]

i dive jeff in qp
its annoyin to have to explain each game so someone goes 2nd healer and still only get 1 healer most games but thats the life of a dive jeff
i do admit its strong uncoordinated bad players, but against smart players and people who work as a team dive isnt that great

so no it doesnt need a nerf

[Seb]

play racoon, shark, iw, thor, namor, iron man, thing, punisher

[Nanashi]

Winter Soldier counters everything. I prefer a dive meta over one where nothing ever dies except when an ultimate is involved.

[JG2thend]

I helped save the tacticians from panther and spidey
I shouldn't of for the rest of the match I got focused and my team wouldn't help no peal no tactician turning round nope they kept their heads up the ass of the tank the entire game. Wasn't much fun I should of switched but eh I needed to try and learn how to deal with it.
Don't nerf dive just switch.

[Rafein]

Honestly, i would like to see Penny get a buff. Let her mines hit targets up to like 5 meters above her web. So her mines can hit Spiderman, who kinda dives into the mines webbing, and never gets hit. Could also lets her nest heal very slowly over time if not taking damage.

Basically, we need to make more anti-dive useful, instead of putting everything on Namor's shoulders.

[j.yellow28]

Originally posted by Rafein:

Honestly, i would like to see Penny get a buff. Let her mines hit targets up to like 5 meters above her web. So her mines can hit Spiderman, who kinda dives into the mines webbing, and never gets hit. Could also lets her nest heal very slowly over time if not taking damage.

Basically, we need to make more anti-dive useful, instead of putting everything on Namor's shoulders.

would be cool to get a slow effect for her webs as well as nest in area. So slow and dmg. Or make it so they cant Junp out and have to walk out tho that would be very powerfull i think

[JG2thend]

Originally posted by Rafein:

Honestly, i would like to see Penny get a buff. Let her mines hit targets up to like 5 meters above her web. So her mines can hit Spiderman, who kinda dives into the mines webbing, and never gets hit. Could also lets her nest heal very slowly over time if not taking damage.

Basically, we need to make more anti-dive useful, instead of putting everything on Namor's shoulders.

Just web him as he swings over your nest bye bye spiderman, or just web him and let everyone else kill him in half a second.

[Basarab Laiota]

they should buff peni

[You'reJustBad]

Originally posted by JG2thend:

Originally posted by Rafein:

Honestly, i would like to see Penny get a buff. Let her mines hit targets up to like 5 meters above her web. So her mines can hit Spiderman, who kinda dives into the mines webbing, and never gets hit. Could also lets her nest heal very slowly over time if not taking damage.

Basically, we need to make more anti-dive useful, instead of putting everything on Namor's shoulders.

Just web him as he swings over your nest bye bye spiderman, or just web him and let everyone else kill him in half a second.

yeah sure, just hit a nat moving at mach 9 and expect everyone else to about face 180 and lazer that same nat with pinpoint accuracy from a map away

are you high?

[JG2thend]

Originally posted by You'reJustBad:

Originally posted by JG2thend:

Just web him as he swings over your nest bye bye spiderman, or just web him and let everyone else kill him in half a second.

yeah sure, just hit a nat moving at mach 9 and expect everyone else to about face 180 and lazer that same nat with pinpoint accuracy from a map away

are you high?

I do it all the time you know his target the tacticians 90% of the time aim accordingly.
If he is on you throw mines at feel when he knocks you up easy web and boom bye bye spidey. Might not hit every shot but you got a good chance. You can also place nest in a better place for your Tacticians to stand on and be in cover.

[Hunu]

Originally posted by Carnifex:

Dive does NOT need a nerf, sustain is really strong in the game to survive dive comps. Also Namor eats dive comps for breakfast and is a better flanker than the actual flanker heroes

Sure, Namor is a good counter to a Spiderman or other diving character but, if the enemy team is taking out your turrets, or the diver is working around them you're still screwed.

Been in plenty matches where we're getting crushed by dive characters, someone swaps to Namor and there is no difference.

Basically, Namor is a good counter is only true if Namor is better than dive players and realistically, the dive players are spending more time honing their craft than the players who compromise and pick Namor to try and suppress dive.

I agree with OP. Dive is often very strong to the point that everyone on the opposing team has to pick something else which sort of makes sense, but maybe if the game was balanced instead, we could all play what we want and be rewarded for playing well instead of being over-powered.

[You'reJustBad]

Originally posted by JG2thend:

Originally posted by You'reJustBad:

yeah sure, just hit a nat moving at mach 9 and expect everyone else to about face 180 and lazer that same nat with pinpoint accuracy from a map away

are you high?

I do it all the time you know his target the tacticians 90% of the time aim accordingly.
If he is on you throw mines at feel when he knocks you up easy web and boom bye bye spidey. Might not hit every shot but you got a good chance. You can also place nest in a better place for your Tacticians to stand on and be in cover.

so, you're either admitting to using an aimbot, or you are in the top 1% of players, and you're expecting everyone else to be just as "Good" as you and telling them to do what you can do, when they can't

so... yeah no

your opinion doesn't apply to the rest of us

[JG2thend]

xD my god you must be real bad at the game if that's what you take from my advice....
Spidey will target your back line aim accordingly to you means I use an aim bot....

Who knew spidey in his combo was such a hard target as he floats there in mid air not moving left or right up or down such a hard shot to make.

You're bad and what's worse you're that bad you can't even take any advice.