Did QP become a high rank only place?

[Vaducar]

cuz i no longer matched against my own ranks. Its only diamond and higher, even CELESTIAL. i have more matches with a GM than a gold player.
Dude i only play qp to be casual, not to sweat and tryhard every single match, i no longer try out a character without getting stomped.
Pls fix the matchmaking, is very stupid to be bronce and get matched against GM. Is not even fun to play.

[Cpt Obvious]

Maybe all the gold and lower players quit and only higher rank players are left playing QP.

[Z]

Reduced player count requires bots and uneven matchmaking to maintain low queue times.

[Kitt 🌟 Stargazer]

They call it Quickplay because they just want to quickly get people into matches. That's why they call it Quickplay. They don't really put too much push on pitting simular ranked together because that's what ranked is generally for.

[Terotrous]

Are you winning these matches though?

If you're playing in these matches and doing decently well the game is probably like "okay, this is fine, this player clearly does belong in these matches" so you'll keep getting them.

I'm also getting the matches against GM and higher players, but I'm still frequently MVP in these matches (my overall MVP rate for the season is about 44%), so I guess I can't really complain that the matches are unfair.

[Basarab Laiota]

yeaah i'm Bronze 2 and my quickplay games are full of Grandmasters lol it is so weird
my winrate is around 54% so i guess the game thinks i belong in these lobbies even though i clearly don't

[Terotrous]

By the way, at least part of what's happening is likely related to something Netease talks about in a paper called EnMatch, where they ran an experiment between two types of matchmaking algorithms. One created full teams of players who were all at the same rank. The other created teams of players who were at different ranks (but with each team having the same distribution of high and low ranks), which they called "diversity matchmaking". Surprisingly, they found that player satisfaction was significantly higher under the diversity algorithm, with players giving more upvotes and being less toxic.

Why does this work? Who knows. The paper doesn't really go into this kind of analysis, it just notes that the latter algorithm performs better. Maybe part of it is that having a high rank player in your game guarantees that you'll have at least a certain basic level of competence on your team, and if they have good voice comms they may be able to lead the team to playing better than they might otherwise. Perhaps this helps the lower rank players improve faster too, since they get the example of a good player to learn from. As for the good players, it lets them be the hero and get the experience of carrying the game, which is seemingly something that motivates players to get good at the game.

[Vaducar]

Originally posted by Terotrous:

Are you winning these matches though?

If you're playing in these matches and doing decently well the game is probably like "okay, this is fine, this player clearly does belong in these matches" so you'll keep getting them.

I'm also getting the matches against GM and higher players, but I'm still frequently MVP in these matches (my overall MVP rate for the season is about 44%), so I guess I can't really complain that the matches are unfair.

like 1 of 10 matches, I will do complain. I am not that level of tryharding every match and i dont want to, it kills the joy of the game. Now it gets to a point of "what team does have better players" or one sided, playable or be stomped.

[Vaducar]

Originally posted by Basarab Laiota:

yeaah i'm Bronze 2 and my quickplay games are full of Grandmasters lol it is so weird
my winrate is around 54% so i guess the game thinks i belong in these lobbies even though i clearly don't

yepp its a problem...

[Vaducar]

Originally posted by Kitt 🌟 Stargazer:

They call it Quickplay because they just want to quickly get people into matches. That's why they call it Quickplay. They don't really put too much push on pitting simular ranked together because that's what ranked is generally for.

well it sucks dude, quantity does not mean quality.

[Terotrous]

Originally posted by Vaducar:

like 1 of 10 matches, I will do complain. I am not that level of tryharding every match and i dont want to, it kills the joy of the game. Now it gets to a point of "what team does have better players" or one sided, playable or be stomped.

I'm pretty sceptical your win rate could be only 10%. Since the ranks across the teams should be pretty equal, that would mean you're basically responsible for your team losing 40% of the time and pretty much no one is that bad.

Now, it's possible that this system of giving each team some high rank players may inordinately screw over certain people. For example, if you're a Bronze Spiderman or Black Panther attempting to dive a GM backline, you're probably going to get trashed and get almost no value. If that is the case, just honestly go to comp to practice and play against other Bronze players, like don't worry about losing games in comp or something, it's just Bronze, you can always dig yourself out of any hole you might get into. Otherwise, I would probably just say to try to play characters who give pretty consistent value and can support the team well. For example, a character like Magneto is pretty straightforward to play, just walk up to the objective and use your shields, you may still die but at least you're getting value by creating space for your team. You could also easily play someone like Rocket and healbot, it may not be the best value in every case but it will always get at least some value.

[Walkman Rew]

Originally posted by Z:

Reduced player count requires bots and uneven matchmaking to maintain low queue times.

No I dont buy this. Overwatch with way way less ppl playing at any given time dont have this problem.

This game is quickly becoming the mobile version of a hero shooter. All quantity and cashgrab and almost no quality.

[☃Thelonelysnowman ☃]

The ranked system is just pure grind to climb, the later it gets in the season the higher everyone's rank is

[Karnarax]

If you do good in your qp games, your mmr increases. That means more stronger opponents.

[j.yellow28]

i mean its quick play it dosnt take rank into account.

[Karnarax]

Originally posted by j.yellow28:

i mean its quick play it dosnt take rank into account.

It seems like it takes your acc level into account though