match way too bitter thanks to iron torch.

[huh?]

obviously my opinion means nothing bcs of silver skill issue + 300k players who would disagree with surface level replies despite all of my common sense.

i just feel like countering both iron man and human torch just sucks in general, ranked or not.
its just not fun playing as any ground hero. bcs all they needed to do is aim for the floor from distance and you still got the dmg nonetheless.

so the only option to to have fun either join them as sky heroes to bully ground enemies or lose. kinda pathetic.

im just gonna quit until new update. i can skip free skeens (it was censored) this season and event. im not gonna fight against game dev.

[Sonrangeri]

They can't fly on any maps where you can seek cover easily. Tight tunnels, rooms etc. they simply lose least 50% of their value, which is high ground.

[huh?]

Originally posted by Sonrangeri:

They can't fly on any maps where you can seek cover easily. Tight tunnels, rooms etc. they simply lose least 50% of their value, which is high ground.

just as expected. im not even gonna bother to explain why this argument so stupid.
jesus.

[Kopejka]

Also Namor counters them easily.
Or any other hitscan (or almost hitscan) characters like Black Widow.

[Sonrangeri]

Originally posted by Jarniwan:

Originally posted by Sonrangeri:

They can't fly on any maps where you can seek cover easily. Tight tunnels, rooms etc. they simply lose least 50% of their value, which is high ground.

just as expected. im not even gonna bother to explain why this argument so stupid.
jesus.

Then please tell why I never see Torch and Iron man played in my ranked (Platinum) games, especially on payload maps? They simply don't provide enough value for team when they're grounded majority of time in match.

[flopaflop]

This game has punisher; one of the easiest characters to use as well as one of the best counters against fliers.

[Phantom Limb]

Originally posted by flopaflop:

This game has punisher; one of the easiest characters to use as well as one of the best counters against fliers.

Not only Punisher can do that. Starlord, Hela, Namor, even supports like Mantis or Rocket can deal with them as well.

[Mister Zero]

I've shot plenty of Iron Man and Human Torch players out of the sky with Jeff, Punisher, and Squirrel Girl.

Who exactly are you playing as? Because not every character is good at dealing with flying enemies.

[huh?]

Originally posted by Sonrangeri:

Originally posted by Jarniwan:

just as expected. im not even gonna bother to explain why this argument so stupid.
jesus.

Then please tell why I never see Torch and Iron man played in my ranked (Platinum) games, especially on payload maps? They simply don't provide enough value for team when they're grounded majority of time in match.

bcs ranks for tryhards.
bcs ranks where ppl wanted to win, not to have fun.
bcs ranks is a place where fun can only be achieved from winning.
bcs rank is a business not a playground.
bcs if you dare to casually mind your business to have fun you got reported.

idk why did you even think it was a good question to begin with.
like sure you tried to make a point by saying "look at me im plat bcs i know how to trihard"
no sh\t sherlock. everybody does. but thts not what i was talking about isnt it? im talking about fun in general. im not talking about winning.
so embarassing.

[huh?]

Originally posted by flopaflop:

This game has punisher; one of the easiest characters to use as well as one of the best counters against fliers.

i could and did. not the same with my teammates who simply wanna have fun with their their melee heroes.

most of the time i just beat them up with luna so i can heal and deal dmg at the same time but that kind of fix feels like applying bandage to treat a tumor. not only dosent work but quite exhausting. im not gonna tryhard all the time in a quickmatch as if im playing a ranked match. there wont be room for casual gameplay.

[ksanathome]

Low ELO play say's "Hi" This thread is retarded. He makes a post asking for help against some of the weakest characters in the game and then he insults when people give him the 12 point I.Q. answer he should have already known

[huh?]

Originally posted by ksanathome:

Low ELO play say's "Hi" This thread is retarded. He makes a post asking for help against some of the weakest characters in the game and then he insults when people give him the 12 point I.Q. answer he should have already known

You are late for the drama. Not including i quit already so supposedly you can be at peace.

Or maybe not bcs you had something else to complain about. Not that its in my range anyway.

[JuiceySpice]

Cmon guys have a little empathy.

At lower ranks/ skill levels the amount of character a player knows is lower so its less likely that someone switches to a counter.

Also the "counters" are much less effective at a lower skill level. While movement is better at high ranks, a high rank punisher will have a much easier time getting hits on fliers than a bronze punisher. Sometimes so much that its not even a counter. Hell I'd consider half of all players at GM wouldn't be capable of effectively killing fliers as punisher.

Some characters/tactics are disproportional powerful at lower ranks

[huh?]

Originally posted by JuiceySpice:

Cmon guys have a little empathy.

At lower ranks/ skill levels the amount of character a player knows is lower so its less likely that someone switches to a counter.

Also the "counters" are much less effective at a lower skill level. While movement is better at high ranks, a high rank punisher will have a much easier time getting hits on fliers than a bronze punisher. Sometimes so much that its not even a counter. Hell I'd consider half of all players at GM wouldn't be capable of effectively killing fliers as punisher.

Some characters/tactics are disproportional powerful at lower ranks

You saw the problem they didnt.

Ppl who used ranks and skill issue as their argument missed the point bcs their iq so limited by their ego.

If cheap strat like iron torch already mud the water of quick match then new players are not even gonna bother to play the game after 2 hrs.

Making this game just as bitter as dota with community full of only veterans just circlejerking.

[CorpseMaker]

Ever heard about the tragedy of Wanda the one button character? If you can´t counter aerials with Wanda, they you shouldnt be playing. lol

[huh?]

Originally posted by CorpseMaker:

Ever heard about the tragedy of Wanda the one button character? If you can´t counter aerials with Wanda, they you shouldnt be playing. lol

You see me complaining about wanda ult?