spiderman needs buff

[baz]

got eternity on spiderman now it feels like this character is just not good compared to other dps if you want to climb, everyone has a solution to a spiderman in this elo and other dps characters just do spideys job but better (psylocke, panther)

[Jesi]

Spodermon needs nerf

[IceCube]

+1 Spiderman is too squishy, buff his hp to 300. actually his hp was 300 during beta, don't know why they nerfed him but not Hela.

[Hart]

He is the most mobile character in the game. Why does he need more life? The only time anyone should see you is when you're killing them or you're ulting.

[Cpt Obvious]

I think his kit makes him a difficult balancing act. Buffs can easily push him into overpowered territory as well.

[Kitt 🌟 Stargazer]

Is it really a need, or do you want him buffed because you enjoy playing him but want to see him easier to play and win with so you have more fun.

Needs and Wants are two very different things, and people very often want something claiming it's an actual need when it's not.

Can you clarify why you want this change to justify it being done?

[Blizzard]

He's extremely underpowered for the average player. I agree he needs a buff. Otherwise it's like everytime you see a spiderman on your team, you know you are very likely to lose. (I'm talking about matches below Diamond and also in quickplay)

[Blizzard]

Originally posted by Hart:

He is the most mobile character in the game. Why does he need more life? The only time anyone should see you is when you're killing them or you're ulting. :VBCOOL:

Most players have already adapted to Spiderman's quick movement and they react fast. So because Spiderman was nerfed before, anyone who plays him is more likely to feed than to contribute to winning the match, unless you get someone who plays Spiderman like a god.

[IceCube]

Originally posted by Hart:

He is the most mobile character in the game. Why does he need more life? The only time anyone should see you is when you're killing them or you're ulting. :VBCOOL:

because whenever you dive as a spiderman you're like going 1v6, even though you can move fast but the whole enemy team is on you, one tiny mistake and you're gone. The Hela just erase you in 2 seconds with no effort.

[VoiD]

Originally posted by IceCube:

Originally posted by Hart:

He is the most mobile character in the game. Why does he need more life? The only time anyone should see you is when you're killing them or you're ulting. :VBCOOL:

because whenever you dive as a spiderman you're like going 1v6, even though you can move fast but the whole enemy team is on you, one tiny mistake and you're gone. The Hela just erase you in 2 seconds with no effort.

You're not supposed to dive 1v6, that's what Venon does.

[Dresden (Abyss)]

Originally posted by IceCube:

Originally posted by Hart:

He is the most mobile character in the game. Why does he need more life? The only time anyone should see you is when you're killing them or you're ulting. :VBCOOL:

because whenever you dive as a spiderman you're like going 1v6, even though you can move fast but the whole enemy team is on you, one tiny mistake and you're gone. The Hela just erase you in 2 seconds with no effort.

why would you go in on 1v6 on anyone? Spiderman's best defense is his evasion, which is one of the best in game. you think you should be able to go in 1 v 6, mess up and still live on a squishy dps?

[Koryiaki]

Originally posted by Kitt 🌟 Stargazer:

Is it really a need, or do you want him buffed because you enjoy playing him but want to see him easier to play and win with so you have more fun.

Needs and Wants are two very different things, and people very often want something claiming it's an actual need when it's not.

Can you clarify why you want this change to justify it being done?

It is a need, spiderman is one of the weakest, if not the weakest dps. His full combo can't even kill a 250hp character, meanwhile panther full combo does 400-500 aoe damage, wolverine about 700 (to tank, 300 to non) both while exerting mobility as part of their combo, hela can 2 tap support/dps, hawkeye can 1 tap, punisher can 2 tap support/dps with shotgun, his turret has aoe with even higher dps, bucky can 2 tap, etc etc etc.

At low skill he seems ridiculous because that is literally the only place he can thrive. At any skill level above supports actively having a stroke you do your combo, high five the support you failed to kill and webswing away to repeat later, meanwhile no one else has this problem unless you are missing your shots/messing up your combo.

[VoiD]

Originally posted by Koryiaki:

Originally posted by Kitt 🌟 Stargazer:

Is it really a need, or do you want him buffed because you enjoy playing him but want to see him easier to play and win with so you have more fun.

Needs and Wants are two very different things, and people very often want something claiming it's an actual need when it's not.

Can you clarify why you want this change to justify it being done?

It is a need, spiderman is one of the weakest, if not the weakest dps. His full combo can't even kill a 250hp character, meanwhile panther full combo does 400-500 aoe damage, wolverine about 700 (to tank, 300 to non) both while exerting mobility as part of their combo, hela can 2 tap support/dps, hawkeye can 1 tap, punisher can 2 tap support/dps with shotgun, his turret has aoe with even higher dps, bucky can 2 tap, etc etc etc.

At low skill he seems ridiculous because that is literally the only place he can thrive. At any skill level above supports actively having a stroke you do your combo, high five the support you failed to kill and webswing away to repeat later, meanwhile no one else has this problem unless you are missing your shots/messing up your combo.

If you use your full combo as black panther you're a sitting duck with no way to escape, if you use E and/or shift to escape, which have way less mobility than spiderman's single shift, you won't deal anywhere near this damage.

Panther is great but let's not pretend he has 1/10 of the mobility spiderman does.

Spiderman isn't supposed to make all the supports & shooters unplayable, killing anyone, anywhere at 100% HP with ease, he's an assassin, you're supposed to watch for weak targets, or stragglers rejoining their team and going after them, if you land a web on a weakened target you can kill them before they could possibly react and get out of there faster than any other character.

PS: WIth the simbiote ability he can 100~0% all of the squishy characters by pressing C after his combo.

[Snaht]

Originally posted by baz:

got eternity on spiderman now it feels like this character is just not good compared to other dps if you want to climb, everyone has a solution to a spiderman in this elo and other dps characters just do spideys job but better (psylocke, panther)

The problem isn't the hero. The problem is the player.

A lot of players seem to just want to jump into the fight and stay there and die.

You have to think like a superhero, smash the weak ones run from the fight and support your teammates

[IceCube]

Originally posted by Dresden (Abyss):

Originally posted by IceCube:

because whenever you dive as a spiderman you're like going 1v6, even though you can move fast but the whole enemy team is on you, one tiny mistake and you're gone. The Hela just erase you in 2 seconds with no effort.

why would you go in on 1v6 on anyone? Spiderman's best defense is his evasion, which is one of the best in game. you think you should be able to go in 1 v 6, mess up and still live on a squishy dps?

Well if you play against a stacked team with a bunch of randoms, you'll have to 1v6, they are like glued together, inseparable.

[[REDACTED]]

Originally posted by Koryiaki:

Originally posted by Kitt 🌟 Stargazer:

Is it really a need, or do you want him buffed because you enjoy playing him but want to see him easier to play and win with so you have more fun.

Needs and Wants are two very different things, and people very often want something claiming it's an actual need when it's not.

Can you clarify why you want this change to justify it being done?

It is a need, spiderman is one of the weakest, if not the weakest dps. His full combo can't even kill a 250hp character, meanwhile panther full combo does 400-500 aoe damage, wolverine about 700 (to tank, 300 to non) both while exerting mobility as part of their combo, hela can 2 tap support/dps, hawkeye can 1 tap, punisher can 2 tap support/dps with shotgun, his turret has aoe with even higher dps, bucky can 2 tap, etc etc etc.

At low skill he seems ridiculous because that is literally the only place he can thrive. At any skill level above supports actively having a stroke you do your combo, high five the support you failed to kill and webswing away to repeat later, meanwhile no one else has this problem unless you are missing your shots/messing up your combo.

Spider tracers increase the damage of your uppercut and basic attack. The tracers expire after one of the aforementioned attacks connects or three seconds has transpired, whichever comes first.

Spider-mans main combo which can 100-0 characters with 300 HP is:
Web Tracer (RMB) - Gap Close (E) -Basic Attack (LMB) -Web Tracer [(RMB) animation cancelling your basic attack] - uppercut [(F) animation cancelling your web tracer].

The character is still being figured out, but he definitely can kill 250 HP targets and even 300 HP ones like Wolverine and Black Panther.