Mantis dmg and healing way lower than cloak and dagger...

[Gisborne]

I just worked my ass off doing dmg and healing in a ranked game and the cloak and dagger on my team did over double both... way easier. I heal TONS more as rocket racoon, why is Mantis SO BAD? also she has way more kills, why is cloak so OP?

[Gisborne]

Originally posted by Kyutaru:

Originally posted by Gisborne:

so if mantis misses 4 of 5 hits, but cloaks hits 4 of 5 hits, who has more dmg?

If mantis is missing that many shots, she shouldn't be playing as mantis because she sucks at the game. Cloak is merely noob friendly, not good.

yeah because most humans have pinpoint accuracy 99% of the time and can hit spider man flying through the air or flyers or a tiny rocket racoon running around a wall.....

[Terotrous]

Originally posted by Gisborne:

well if you can land most hits... and then your constantly spinning around healing or buffing people which takes your focus off aiming and dps. doesnt cloak aoe dmg and heal from the same attack?

You should generally be positioned slightly behind the front line so you can attack and heal at the same time. In the event that you do have to push ahead to get a kill, spend most of your healing orbs first on whomever you can see, you'll get most of them back if you get the kill (and if you get killed instead at least you won't die with full healing resource).

[Octarius]

Originally posted by Gisborne:

Originally posted by Princz:

She is prety much the strongest supp in the game..

CLEARLY NOT, HALF DMG, HALF KILLS, HALF HEALING OF CLOAK AND DAGGER, SO YEAH... SO USEFUL.

Tell me you are Bronze I without tell me you are Bronze I

[Gisborne]

Originally posted by Octarius:

Originally posted by Gisborne:

CLEARLY NOT, HALF DMG, HALF KILLS, HALF HEALING OF CLOAK AND DAGGER, SO YEAH... SO USEFUL.

Tell me you are Bronze I without tell me you are Bronze I

Silver actually and apparently thays better than like 80% of the player base or so it says.

[Judge Cudge]

Her stun instant kills backline busters.
Her heal buff allows for higher mobility teams to enjoy healing support.
She might literally be the best healer in the game for all situations other then clump hallway fighting, which Loki is the best at.

She's strictly better than cloak and OP is a bad player for not noticing.

[OMEGA]

is it hard to accept that maybe the C&D player is just better than you

[Frosty the Pyro]

Originally posted by Gisborne:

Originally posted by Kyutaru:

I'm not sure what drugs prompted you to say this, but I'll cure your misconceptions with a link to their stats page.

https://www.marvelrivals.com/heroes/index.html

If you review their damage and abilities, you'll find cloak and dagger only output 75 dps on their primary while Mantis deals 125 dps with hers. Mantis also has no damage falloff on her long range attacks while Cloak has a 20m max range.

cloaks attacks not only HOME on their targets making missing vastly less of a thing, but they deal aoe as well, i was trying to take down storm yesterday as mantis and the storm players was moving in constantly random directions up down left and right, making hitting her next to impossible. so if mantis misses 4 of 5 hits, but cloaks hits 4 of 5 hits, who has more dmg?

still mantis as storm was out of cloaks range the whole time?

[Kyutaru]

Originally posted by Gisborne:

Originally posted by Kyutaru:

If mantis is missing that many shots, she shouldn't be playing as mantis because she sucks at the game. Cloak is merely noob friendly, not good.

yeah because most humans have pinpoint accuracy 99% of the time and can hit spider man flying through the air or flyers or a tiny rocket racoon running around a wall.....

Most good players can, yes. It's a shooter. Were you expecting accuracy to not matter?

75 dps vs 125 dps means you only need 60% accuracy to match Cloak's damage. Less when you count Mantis 12% dmg buff. Which btw, 12% per character is a huge damage boost that's all from your existence, and your damage count won't reflect that.

[Gisborne]

Originally posted by Kyutaru:

Originally posted by Gisborne:

yeah because most humans have pinpoint accuracy 99% of the time and can hit spider man flying through the air or flyers or a tiny rocket racoon running around a wall.....

Most good players can, yes. It's a shooter. Were you expecting accuracy to not matter?

75 dps vs 125 dps means you only need 60% accuracy to match Cloak's damage. Less when you count Mantis 12% dmg buff. Which btw, 12% per character is a huge damage boost that's all from your existence, and your damage count won't reflect that.

I've played shooted on Pc my entire life and with tens of thousands da of hours of practice I'm still not able to headshot constantly a spiderman zipping around, and I don't believe anyone here including you an either without lying and pretending. So stop trying to act the big man.

[CoronaChan]

Originally posted by Gisborne:

I just worked my ass off doing dmg and healing in a ranked game and the cloak and dagger on my team did over double both... way easier. I heal TONS more as rocket racoon, why is Mantis SO BAD? also she has way more kills, why is cloak so OP?

If its dead it doesnt do damage and damage means it aint there to be healed.

[HighLanderPony]

3 pages of banter just for it to come down to skissue.

[Mochan]

Originally posted by Gisborne:

Originally posted by Princz:

She is prety much the strongest supp in the game..

CLEARLY NOT, HALF DMG, HALF KILLS, HALF HEALING OF CLOAK AND DAGGER, SO YEAH... SO USEFUL.

Stop fixating on stats. Higher stats =/= stronger

Dagger is better at healing because she is more consistent due to her auto-aim and her AOE healing cooldowns. Mantis only has singletarget DOT healing on a charge cooldown barring her ult. But higher heal stats is not necessarily better.

Also this largely a you issue. Mantis is better at dealing with flankers than Dagger by a metric mile, but probably not if you're the one playing. You probably also can't hit your shots, so you don't get your cooldown charges back.

[BirdDinosaur]

you are just bad. Mantis isn't played for her healing. She's played for her utility. Buff team, sleep to interrupt ultimate/stop flankers/divers, she's a mini Hela with the snipes too

[Gisborne]

Originally posted by HighLanderPony:

3 pages of banter just for it to come down to skissue.

People using the word skill issue these days like people calling anything good Fire is cringe and sad and shows the decline of gaming.

[Chaosolous]

When played well Mantis can carry an entire team.