Jeff is my ONLY problem with this game

[Forsidion]

he shouldn't be able to swim ACROSS a map and spit you out of the arena, Either shorten the amount of time he can swim or make it so he can ONLY spit out at enemy players. He's cheap, there's no skill involved, and SIMPLY NOT FUN

[Kitt 🌟 Stargazer]

I see more problems then just that personally. Some characters I do feel have a little bit too many benefits towards them or are way too over simplistic in design but I still enjoy facing them and playing them.

Jeff's ult I feel has 2 to 3 problems and that's it.

1. The biggest issue is that his Ult can swallow people outside of the circle that's suppose to indicate the range of it.
2. When picking an area to use the Ult in, you move even faster then when your just underground and healing. To an extent you look like you just teleport to where you pick as well, since I don't see Jeff's fin or anything when your picking indiciating that he's actually there during that part.
3. With how long you can hold swallowed people, I feel his speed should be reduced significantly so he can't clear a hug portion of the map to get to a death zone to toss enemies into.

[True Circa]

You can counter pick him. Star lord can fly, so he cant be cheesed like that. Spider man, venom and penny parker can obviously get back onto the stage so they can be good counters too. I will say i think the ult could use a little tuning but honestly I think the idea is that you can pick around his ult making it kinda ♥♥♥♥. Imagine he ults and gets spider man and like iron fist. He's basically isolating him self with 2 carries.

[Kitt 🌟 Stargazer]

A lot of characters can counter Jeff with animation canceling too. Hulks Transformations, Punishers turrets and even activating Jeff's ultimate just before he does his move will keep you from getting swallowed entirely.

[kw0lf.tw]

the little dude literally sings a little song when he's coming to get you ... also, you could play a flying toon ... that might solve the issue

[you're ugly]

A healer having an ult that can easily (and frequently does) wipe teams with very little counter-play is frankly unacceptable.

[OMEGA]

i have found a remedy to jeffs ult step 1 look at sky

step 2 press Lshift

[Albert Minigolf]

The only issue with jeff, is his circle isnt accurate and he can grab people like ironman. Other than that hes the worst strategist. Spread out, and hes not a problem. Penni parker nukes him even underground.

[Kinoghoul]

Its not that bad. Jeff doesn't typically have an amazing kill count. I would make some small adjustments to the hit box range of that ult but other than that is not that big of a deal. You hear a jeff ult don't clump together and focus fire on the fin. If you do get snagged many of the characters have movement abilities that can get you back to land unlesss jeff kamikazes. If jeff does kamikaze he leaves his remaining teammates without one of their more potent healers. Also Cloak can full on counter many ults with one of his abilities.

[EmperorVolo]

Originally posted by Forsidion:

he shouldn't be able to swim ACROSS a map and spit you out of the arena, Either shorten the amount of time he can swim or make it so he can ONLY spit out at enemy players. He's cheap, there's no skill involved, and SIMPLY NOT FUN

Almost every single character in the game has a counter.

[Kitt 🌟 Stargazer]

Originally posted by kkiri:

Also his permanent trollface is making it even worse.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kMLtbvwMM6k

[umbra_deatie]

Peni is a great counter for not only Jeff but alot of Divers. Guess Jeff counts a Diver in this case if you fin out the details. The mine field she makes can nuke even a ulted Iorn Fist. I see Peni I have to think three times before I decide how to Its Jeff.

[trench]

I tried playing his ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ holiday mode and now I hate him even more now.

[Milkie]

Originally posted by Kitt 🌟 Stargazer:

I see more problems then just that personally. Some characters I do feel have a little bit too many benefits towards them or are way too over simplistic in design but I still enjoy facing them and playing them.

Jeff's ult I feel has 2 to 3 problems and that's it.

1. The biggest issue is that his Ult can swallow people outside of the circle that's suppose to indicate the range of it.
2. When picking an area to use the Ult in, you move even faster then when your just underground and healing. To an extent you look like you just teleport to where you pick as well, since I don't see Jeff's fin or anything when your picking indiciating that he's actually there during that part.
3. With how long you can hold swallowed people, I feel his speed should be reduced significantly so he can't clear a hug portion of the map to get to a death zone to toss enemies into.

I imagine problem number 1 occurs because of server ticks. They can tighten it up maybe but there's probably going to be instances of that no matter what they do.

[AXIOS FINALE]

waah waaah

[Hajile]

Pick heroes that can dodge him.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A_imCnfqfII

Here, Moonknight has grapple (i pressume Punisher could have as well), Cloak has fade.

Among the supports, Rocket, Cloak and Loki can dodge him. Not sure about the other classes.