Not A Big Fan Of the MVP System

[Borko]

It's pretty bad.

First off, Duelists get it the vast majority of the time, because kills are valued over everything else. It's very hard for Strategists that aren't Mantis to get it. Rocket almost never gets it because he doesn't get a lot of kills. If he's getting lots of kills, he's not healing.
Vanguards get it the second most because they also get lots of kills.

It really doesn't mean that player was the best. I've seen Rockets get MVP that were actually a detriment to the team, because to get MVP they had to focus on damage for a while and their team repeatedly died because of it, with many moments where they wouldn't have if they just held right click instead of left.
He just dumps a bunch of healing on the tanks to keep them up and then prioritizes doing damage and chasing kills after, so both Duelists die when they shouldn't have over and over.

People see it as it giving them the right to flame their team and blame people. The game is calling them the "best" on the team, so "obviously" they aren't the issue and because nobody can blame them, they will blame other people with relative safety. I've seen it happen many times. Iron Man with MVP going "where tf are the heals??", "jeff needs to step it up", "touch the ****** point JEFF", "ong jeff is the worst i've seen gg".
And nobody can go against him because the game slapped him with a label that says "this is your best player".

It needs to value other things that aren't just kills and how little you've died.
A single death can also remove MVP from you. There's been times I've had only 1 death and 25 kills, died, and then it was taken from me and given to the other Duelist who only has 21 kills but only 1 death.
It reminds me of the POTG system in Overwatch which ONLY values kills, and highly overvalues environmental kills. You could get a 4 kill as Reaper but POTG will go to Lucio who knocked 2 people off the map.
You will NEVER get it as certain supports, literally never, making their POTG intros useless.
Same thing happens here. Certain characters will almost never get MVP and their MVP animations will almost never play.

System needs reworking.

[Scamdiver]

bad, next
MVP/SVPs are usually more fair than those kills/dmg/blocked dmg/heal amount

[Phantom Limb]

Not sure what are you on about. I've seen plenty of strategists and vanguards receiving MPV. It's all about teamwortk and individual skill to earn the title.

[Nitro Toxico]

Originally posted by Phantom Limb:

Not sure what are you on about. I've seen plenty of strategists and vanguards receiving MPV. It's all about teamwortk and individual skill to earn the title.

MvP happens when the player in the team gets the most kills and/or assist in the game then deaths. So ofc a Strategist or Vanguard would be able to gain them as well if they manage to do better then everyone else.

[DorkSparce]

I always gets it as Luna

[LunarGatta]

Originally posted by Borko:

It's pretty bad.

First off, Duelists get it the vast majority of the time,

Huh? I get MVP nearly every match and I almost exclusively play Support.

[Gilmore]

Dude you literally complain about everything. Find a different game if you don’t like anything about the game.

[Sonrangeri]

Assists are still less valued when it comes to MVP tho. That Moon Knight doing multikills every ult etc. will always gets MVP over your support who did good job entire match without being even shown in result board. When random ultimate multikills which do not even help at objective are counted as "MVP", it makes MVP system feel stupid. I have never seen PURE healer or tank getting MVP.

[Phantom Limb]

Originally posted by Nitro Toxico:

Originally posted by Phantom Limb:

Not sure what are you on about. I've seen plenty of strategists and vanguards receiving MPV. It's all about teamwortk and individual skill to earn the title.

MvP happens when the player in the team gets the most kills and/or assist in the game then deaths. So ofc a Strategist or Vanguard would be able to gain them as well if they manage to do better then everyone else.

So it is not actually "almost exclusive" to duelists after all, right? And skill and individual performance are the actual stats that matter for MVP.

[Borko]

Originally posted by Nitro Toxico:

Originally posted by Phantom Limb:

Not sure what are you on about. I've seen plenty of strategists and vanguards receiving MPV. It's all about teamwortk and individual skill to earn the title.

MvP happens when the player in the team gets the most kills and/or assist in the game then deaths. So ofc a Strategist or Vanguard would be able to gain them as well if they manage to do better then everyone else.

That's the thing, the Strategist has to be better than both Duelists and the Vanguards. They have to be better than everyone in the match, so basically the rest of your team has to suck, bad, because they aren't as good at getting kills.

I can excel as Rocket, getting a crazy amount of assists (higher than anyone in the match), very high healing (far higher than anyone in the match), but I won't get it because Moon Knight has 21 kills and I only have 2 because I'm playing a character that SUCKS at getting kills, and if I swap to doing damage people will die.

The only times I see Rocket get MVP are when the other team is SO BAD that he doesn't really need to heal much and can just run around killing people.

[Zanth]

I've received MVP, as well as SVP as Cloak & Dagger often enough. Not sure what metric it uses, though.

[OMEGA]

borko why do you play this game if you find a way to complain about everything

[OMEGA]

and obviously kills are valued over everything else because thats how you win team fights and team fights are how you win games and at the end of the day who cares

[Akasha]

Originally posted by Borko:

It's pretty bad.

First off, Duelists get it the vast majority of the time, because kills are valued over everything else. It's very hard for Strategists that aren't Mantis to get it. Rocket almost never gets it because he doesn't get a lot of kills.

Stop reading after this, skill issue. Duelist have the hardest time getting MVPs because they can only kill to get it and they have to make up with a lot more kills and damage just to compensate. While vanguards just have to get healed and take a lot of damage allowing them to deal a lot of damage. Strategists heal and damage just to strong arm duelists with ease out of MVP.

[FrostyShock]

just go back to your dying OW2 bro

[nut_db]

skill diff

I get MVP / SVP by tanking most the time.