Iron Fist

[Belnades]

There is absolutely no need for this character to have a free gap close with every single auto attack.

[A Malnourished Cake]

Well, there is a need. For him to also be a choice to deal with flying characters and speed characters. Without it, no one would really use him because his hits would never land, everyone would just out pace him otherwise.

[RinneSean]

Literally just turned it off after a game after an AI Iron Fist bodied me as Magik 5 times in a row with better speed, damage and shield generation, he was melting my shield before I could make it AS DARKCHILD, MY ULTIMATE

[Belnades]

Originally posted by Synthetic Oatmeal:

Well, there is a need. For him to also be a choice to deal with flying characters and speed characters. Without it, no one would really use him because his hits would never land, everyone would just out pace him otherwise.

There is also no need for him to be able to deal with flying heroes as a melee hero. Other melee heros don't have this type of aim assist. Countering flying heroes should be the job of ranged heroes.

[FON]

Yes there is, he's the worst diver in the game (if we exclude wolverine who's a niche tank bust pick). He needs all the help he can get.

[Belnades]

Originally posted by FON:

Yes there is, he's the worst diver in the game (if we exclude wolverine who's a niche tank bust pick). He needs all the help he can get.

Lmao.

[Vermilion Knight]

Originally posted by Belnades:

There is absolutely no need for this character to have a free gap close with every single auto attack.

I'm hoping he's nerfed next patch along with some of the other broken DPS. If Iron Fist has a dedicated healer he has infinite health. I've seen Punisher's Gatling guns not able to output enough damage to stop his ult which is absolutely stupid.

Realistically the ONLY DPS that should heal is Wolverine. We have a ton of DPS who randomly get shield and HP buffs for no reason whatsoever and it makes them way harder to punish because their hands are being held.

[Belnades]

Originally posted by Vermilion Knight:

Originally posted by Belnades:

There is absolutely no need for this character to have a free gap close with every single auto attack.

I'm hoping he's nerfed next patch along with some of the other broken DPS. If Iron Fist has a dedicated healer he has infinite health. I've seen Punisher's Gatling guns not able to output enough damage to stop his ult which is absolutely stupid.

Realistically the ONLY DPS that should heal is Wolverine. We have a ton of DPS who randomly get shield and HP buffs for no reason whatsoever and it makes them way harder to punish because their hands are being held.

Just compare him to Magick and how quickly she falls in comparison. He is way too tanky on top of his mobility and everything he can do damage wise. Iron Fist is just as unhealthy for the game as Jeff ult in my opinion.

[Vermilion Knight]

Originally posted by Belnades:

Originally posted by Vermilion Knight:

I'm hoping he's nerfed next patch along with some of the other broken DPS. If Iron Fist has a dedicated healer he has infinite health. I've seen Punisher's Gatling guns not able to output enough damage to stop his ult which is absolutely stupid.

Realistically the ONLY DPS that should heal is Wolverine. We have a ton of DPS who randomly get shield and HP buffs for no reason whatsoever and it makes them way harder to punish because their hands are being held.

Just compare him to Magick and how quickly she falls in comparison. He is way too tanky on top of his mobility and everything he can do damage wise. Iron Fist is just as unhealthy for the game as Jeff ult in my opinion.

Well Magick needs to lose the armor too, she is too tanky for a DPS. No DPS should have armor unless they are buffed by someone else. And Jeff is fine. but his Ult timer is too long, he should only be able to travel a short distance and spit out the enemies, not half way across the map.

[Jesi]

Play him and keep winning (you will not)

[Belnades]

Originally posted by Vermilion Knight:

Originally posted by Belnades:

Just compare him to Magick and how quickly she falls in comparison. He is way too tanky on top of his mobility and everything he can do damage wise. Iron Fist is just as unhealthy for the game as Jeff ult in my opinion.

Well Magick needs to lose the armor too, she is too tanky for a DPS. No DPS should have armor unless they are buffed by someone else. And Jeff is fine. but his Ult timer is too long, he should only be able to travel a short distance and spit out the enemies, not half way across the map.

Disagree with the Magick take. A melee hero must be a little tanky in order to survive. Unless they have super high mobility like Spiderman.

[Belnades]

Originally posted by Jesi:

Play him and keep winning (you will not)

This has absolutely nothing to do with anything what I said because things can be unfun and unbalanced without impacting winrates too much + opinions exist. :)

[RinneSean]

Originally posted by Vermilion Knight:

Originally posted by Belnades:

There is absolutely no need for this character to have a free gap close with every single auto attack.

I'm hoping he's nerfed next patch along with some of the other broken DPS. If Iron Fist has a dedicated healer he has infinite health. I've seen Punisher's Gatling guns not able to output enough damage to stop his ult which is absolutely stupid.

Realistically the ONLY DPS that should heal is Wolverine. We have a ton of DPS who randomly get shield and HP buffs for no reason whatsoever and it makes them way harder to punish because their hands are being held.

Have you played amgik? I main magik and she's not tanky at all, her slash only give +23 bonus health and her 2nd free melee gives +10 and Iron Fist punches 3-4 times before she gets 1 spash and he gets bonus health on all those + his speed and flying

[ΛΞL™⚡]

I really dislike Iron Fist out of all the characters in the game he is the most annoying for me so far his movement animations are kinda weird too its like someone playing with speed hacks and lock on.

[enu]

too bad iron fist is big doodoo

[Driblex™]

I'm personally fine with the gap closer but the auto-lock is really weird. Why does he have it, but other melee champs don't? If he's able the catch flying enemies as melee champ, at least make it skill based so the user has to aim to hit someone.