Why penalty for leaving Quick Play?

[RubADuck]

In ranked I'm 100% pro penalty but why quick play? Sometimes you just want to leave, so why put a penalty on quick play?

[Nihil]

Agree that it is stupid to have penalty on QP.
Especially since it also penalizes you if you instantly leave as soon you get dropped in still in the prep phase.

[Six]

It also will penalize you for leaving Doom matches. I don't understand that logic.

[Player Zer01]

if you wanna leave mid match then play bots

[/dev/random]

Publicado originalmente por Player Zer01:

if you wanna leave mid match then play bots

Well, the main reason for living mid-match is that the team is full of bots.

[Krazy Wallet]

Because you are not the main character in this thing we call the world. I'm sorry your parents never taught you to lose with grace, but better late than never, I suppose

[Nihil]

Publicado originalmente por Krazy Wallet:

Because you are not the main character in this thing we call the world. I'm sorry your parents never taught you to lose with grace, but better late than never, I suppose

Again someone who isn't reading just commenting :D

[Krazy Wallet]

Publicado originalmente por Nihil:

Publicado originalmente por Krazy Wallet:

Because you are not the main character in this thing we call the world. I'm sorry your parents never taught you to lose with grace, but better late than never, I suppose

Again someone who isn't reading just commenting :D

Explain please. Seems like a logical response to OP who "just wants to leave" in a match he signed up to play.

[R for Reload]

FYI you can play doom matches and leave without being punished.

[KAIIRU]

It's fine. If you get a penalty you can just log off for the day and play a real game that respects your time. MR's population will continue to shrink

[Nihil]

Publicado originalmente por Krazy Wallet:

Publicado originalmente por Nihil:

Again someone who isn't reading just commenting :D

Explain please. Seems like a logical response to OP who "just wants to leave" in a match he signed up to play.

Others already brought up multiple examples for leaving. Means that leaving a game doesn't occure only of an ongoing game is going to be a lost one and people rage quit. It can have several reasons and several circumstances.
Like someone said, if the game has too many bots and isn't fun to play that match because you didn't queued for a game vs AI.
Or what i wrote that you get dropped into a game and want to/have to leave instantly. So as soon you get into the hero select in the prep. phase, you instantly leave. Not harming the game at all but still get the penalty.
Or leaving doom matches where you again literally don't harm anyone because it is a deathmatch. Not even TDM.
Or if you get thrown into an already ongoing game which is already about to end so you leave because you don't want to waste your time. (actually this should issue with matchmaking should be also fixed by devs)
Leaver penalty should really only exist in comp. And even there only if the game has already started.
Overwatch had the same issue after launch and they too needed time to figure out how to finetune leaver penalties.

[Krazy Wallet]

Publicado originalmente por Nihil:

Publicado originalmente por Krazy Wallet:

Explain please. Seems like a logical response to OP who "just wants to leave" in a match he signed up to play.

Others already brought up multiple examples for leaving. Means that leaving a game doesn't occure only of an ongoing game is going to be a lost one and people rage quit. It can have several reasons and several circumstances.
Like someone said, if the game has too many bots and isn't fun to play that match because you didn't queued for a game vs AI.
Or what i wrote that you get dropped into a game and want to/have to leave instantly. So as soon you get into the hero select in the prep. phase, you instantly leave. Not harming the game at all but still get the penalty.
Or leaving doom matches where you again literally don't harm anyone because it is a deathmatch. Not even TDM.
Or if you get thrown into an already ongoing game which is already about to end so you leave because you don't want to waste your time. (actually this should issue with matchmaking should be also fixed by devs)
Leaver penalty should really only exist in comp. And even there only if the game has already started.
Overwatch had the same issue after launch and they too needed time to figure out how to finetune leaver penalties.

That's fair, I was just replying to OP. it's fair that these things may have been brought up prior. I'd still disagree about the ability to leave QP as you'd see an entire team leave after losing first point. I actually liked how Paladins does/did their leaver penalty. I haven't played in years so I assume it's the same. In that instance, anyone who left a match was unable to queue up for a new match until the one that they left concluded. If they rage quit too many times, they still got their leaver penalties.

I found that this did mitigate lots of players from abandoning quick play matches, though it could still happen. It also ensured that queuing up for a match always resulted in a fresh game.

[Nihil]

Publicado originalmente por Krazy Wallet:

Publicado originalmente por Nihil:

Others already brought up multiple examples for leaving. Means that leaving a game doesn't occure only of an ongoing game is going to be a lost one and people rage quit. It can have several reasons and several circumstances.
Like someone said, if the game has too many bots and isn't fun to play that match because you didn't queued for a game vs AI.
Or what i wrote that you get dropped into a game and want to/have to leave instantly. So as soon you get into the hero select in the prep. phase, you instantly leave. Not harming the game at all but still get the penalty.
Or leaving doom matches where you again literally don't harm anyone because it is a deathmatch. Not even TDM.
Or if you get thrown into an already ongoing game which is already about to end so you leave because you don't want to waste your time. (actually this should issue with matchmaking should be also fixed by devs)
Leaver penalty should really only exist in comp. And even there only if the game has already started.
Overwatch had the same issue after launch and they too needed time to figure out how to finetune leaver penalties.

That's fair, I was just replying to OP. it's fair that these things may have been brought up prior. I'd still disagree about the ability to leave QP as you'd see an entire team leave after losing first point. I actually liked how Paladins does/did their leaver penalty. I haven't played in years so I assume it's the same. In that instance, anyone who left a match was unable to queue up for a new match until the one that they left concluded. If they rage quit too many times, they still got their leaver penalties.

I found that this did mitigate lots of players from abandoning quick play matches, though it could still happen. It also ensured that queuing up for a match always resulted in a fresh game.

Ah okay. Sometimes i don't read other comments either. So i get it.
Well i have never seen an entire team to leave. But maybe i was only lucky. But as i noticed the game is still popular and played by enough people that games get backfilled with people in no time. (might change between regions)
But good that you brought up the system from paladins because that was now the 1st example which came to my mind. That most games which had this system in place were the most fair ones.
But again the system Overwatch was doing (dunno if still the case. Used to love OW, but I can't stand OW2 so not playing anymore) that everyone could leave the game till the game was still in pre-game preparation /hero pick phase.
Without penalty.

[Krazy Wallet]

Publicado originalmente por Nihil:

Publicado originalmente por Krazy Wallet:

That's fair, I was just replying to OP. it's fair that these things may have been brought up prior. I'd still disagree about the ability to leave QP as you'd see an entire team leave after losing first point. I actually liked how Paladins does/did their leaver penalty. I haven't played in years so I assume it's the same. In that instance, anyone who left a match was unable to queue up for a new match until the one that they left concluded. If they rage quit too many times, they still got their leaver penalties.

I found that this did mitigate lots of players from abandoning quick play matches, though it could still happen. It also ensured that queuing up for a match always resulted in a fresh game.

Ah okay. Sometimes i don't read other comments either. So i get it.
Well i have never seen an entire team to leave. But maybe i was only lucky. But as i noticed the game is still popular and played by enough people that games get backfilled with people in no time. (might change between regions)
But good that you brought up the system from paladins because that was now the 1st example which came to my mind. That most games which had this system in place were the most fair ones.
But again the system Overwatch was doing (dunno if still the case. Used to love OW, but I can't stand OW2 so not playing anymore) that everyone could leave the game till the game was still in pre-game preparation /hero pick phase.
Without penalty.

I actually didn't know that about OW having played it for years. I also left in OW2 because.... it's OW2 hahah. Been itching for a good hero shooter ever since. I appreciate you taking the time to explain your responses though. Nice to actually have civil conversation on the forums

[Nihil]

Publicado originalmente por Krazy Wallet:

Publicado originalmente por Nihil:

Ah okay. Sometimes i don't read other comments either. So i get it.
Well i have never seen an entire team to leave. But maybe i was only lucky. But as i noticed the game is still popular and played by enough people that games get backfilled with people in no time. (might change between regions)
But good that you brought up the system from paladins because that was now the 1st example which came to my mind. That most games which had this system in place were the most fair ones.
But again the system Overwatch was doing (dunno if still the case. Used to love OW, but I can't stand OW2 so not playing anymore) that everyone could leave the game till the game was still in pre-game preparation /hero pick phase.
Without penalty.

I actually didn't know that about OW having played it for years. I also left in OW2 because.... it's OW2 hahah. Been itching for a good hero shooter ever since. I appreciate you taking the time to explain your responses though. Nice to actually have civil conversation on the forums :praisesun:

Haha same here with OW2. Still sad about it but it is what it is. And hey we have to show an example. Right?

[JAC]

the same people arguing in favor of leaver penalty remaining are the same people who go "its just quickplay" when you call out them for playing into enemy counters and refusing to swap to a better character for the composition.

you either want quickplay to be casual or you dont, in either case its get rid of leaver penalty or play your role properly. and i dont mean, play what you want. play with atleast some intent to win the game. this means change characters to better counter enemy composition.

looking at you DPS mains who refuse to listen to anyone and think you can 1v6 every corner.