Optimization

[Cat with a Gat]

Is this just an Unreal Engine thing or is it the devs who didn't optimize the game to run? I have a pretty decent mid end PC that can run so many other games at 4k 120 fps, yet I can't play this one without it turning into a powerpoint or even just straight up crashing a crazy amount. This thread is mainly for the moderators, get your act together please. We deserve more transparency, Marvel deserves better than this. This is the first Marvel success in years after all. Epic is just a garbage company. I have a conspiracy theory that the Epic devs intentionally made their engine work less on any game that isn't theirs because so many of the games being made nowadays are both using UE5, and release on their competitors platforms. What a joke. I'm not super bad, but when my computer goes Powerpoint mode I do miss every shot and can't track enemies properly leading people to probably report me.
In progress matches need to go as well, I get wanting to fill a slot but seriously, I get put in losing matches like half the games I queue into. And the objective is 75% completed by the enemy team when I even load in.

[PlaceHolder]

Game optimization is ♥♥♥♥ indeed, and CrapEngine 5 doesnt help.
Like, how can this mediocre lookin game run 50 fps on a 3070 when in battles?
Worst combo when you get lazy devs and CrapEngine 5.

[Loki]

Try Epic preset setting, I know it sounds crazy, but it worked for me for another UE5 game [ifsunsets]

[Simpie Senpai]

Yeah, sure, your 'mid-range PC' is running modern games at 4K 120 FPS—what are you using, a NASA supercomputer from your mom’s basement? Meanwhile, I’m cruising at a smooth 180 FPS in this game without a hitch. Maybe the issue isn’t Unreal Engine or the devs, but your ‘mid-range PC’ that’s actually just a glorified toaster. Oh, and blaming Epic for sabotaging competitors? That’s a conspiracy theory worthy of its own PowerPoint presentation—good thing your PC is already in PowerPoint mode.

[BOLINHA DE GORFE]

yeah even rtx 4090 has a hard time to run this game on 4k ultra with lumen on.

[Supreme Leader Kim Jong Don]

-dx12 in launch options for fps boost

[DarkVegeta]

Performance is pretty bad, I also have constant crashes. UE 5 slop like always.

[pasta]

Originally posted by Simpie Senpai:

Yeah, sure, your 'mid-range PC' is running modern games at 4K 120 FPS—what are you using, a NASA supercomputer from your mom’s basement? Meanwhile, I’m cruising at a smooth 180 FPS in this game without a hitch. Maybe the issue isn’t Unreal Engine or the devs, but your ‘mid-range PC’ that’s actually just a glorified toaster. Oh, and blaming Epic for sabotaging competitors? That’s a conspiracy theory worthy of its own PowerPoint presentation—good thing your PC is already in PowerPoint mode.

This is cringe and i hope you feel cringe.

[Cat with a Gat]

Originally posted by Simpie Senpai:

Yeah, sure, your 'mid-range PC' is running modern games at 4K 120 FPS—what are you using, a NASA supercomputer from your mom’s basement? Meanwhile, I’m cruising at a smooth 180 FPS in this game without a hitch. Maybe the issue isn’t Unreal Engine or the devs, but your ‘mid-range PC’ that’s actually just a glorified toaster. Oh, and blaming Epic for sabotaging competitors? That’s a conspiracy theory worthy of its own PowerPoint presentation—good thing your PC is already in PowerPoint mode.

I have a rtx 4080 super with 32 GB of RAM and an i9 processor
It should run
Your level 0 account tells me everything I need to know about you
FYI I run it at 1080p to try to alleviate the lag/frame-drop but to no avail.

[Cat with a Gat]

Originally posted by BOOBA:

-dx12 in launch options for fps boost

That makes sense, if it's running in DX11 or Vulkan it may be less stable than DX12

[SQLOwns]

i have a 1060, a card that was top of the line 7 years ago, game runs fine for me, maybe check your setup, you may have malware.

[Lewis]

Originally posted by Cat with a Gat:

Originally posted by Simpie Senpai:

Yeah, sure, your 'mid-range PC' is running modern games at 4K 120 FPS—what are you using, a NASA supercomputer from your mom’s basement? Meanwhile, I’m cruising at a smooth 180 FPS in this game without a hitch. Maybe the issue isn’t Unreal Engine or the devs, but your ‘mid-range PC’ that’s actually just a glorified toaster. Oh, and blaming Epic for sabotaging competitors? That’s a conspiracy theory worthy of its own PowerPoint presentation—good thing your PC is already in PowerPoint mode.

I have a rtx 4080 super with 32 GB of RAM and an i9 processor
It should run
Your level 0 account tells me everything I need to know about you

If it means anything I'm getting heavy frame drops as well and stuttering. In the matches i've played and asked they all say the same thing.


For reference my specs are
RTX 4090
64GB DDR5
7950x3d
4TB of Gen 4 M.2
NZXT B650

[Cat with a Gat]

Originally posted by SQLOwns:

i have a 1060, a card that was top of the line 7 years ago, game runs fine for me, maybe check your setup, you may have malware.

Whoa, my 1070 stopped being useful in January so I upgraded. If your card is running it that well, I'm mind boggled. I wish my card ran the game this well

[Cat with a Gat]

Originally posted by Lewis:

Originally posted by Cat with a Gat:

I have a rtx 4080 super with 32 GB of RAM and an i9 processor
It should run
Your level 0 account tells me everything I need to know about you

If it means anything I'm getting heavy frame drops as well and stuttering. In the matches i've played and asked they all say the same thing.


For reference my specs are
RTX 4090
64GB DDR5
7950x3d
4TB of Gen 4 M.2
NZXT B650

Thank you for your response! I hope the devs look at this thread to see our plight

[DaddyEcho69]

Yes its an UE5 thing. Either that or every dev using UE5 as of late is the equal amount of lazy. Marvel Rivals, The First Descendant, Infinity Nikki, STALKER 2, Monster Hunter Wilds beta, Steel Hunters beta, ARK Ascended, Silent Hill 2, all use UE5, all rely on upscalers, FDR, and a 2000$ GPU to get anywhere near playable framerate. And half of them don't even look like a modern title.

Infinity Nikki, Marvel Rivals, STALKER 2 look like 10 year old titles, or simply have stylized graphics that aren't going for realism, and they still run like ♥♥♥♥. So yeah either UE5 bad, or every one of those devs using UE5 is bad.

It doesn't serve Epic to make their own engine look bad, they want more people using it and making money so they make money. A better conspiracy is UE5 working with NVIDIA and purposefully making a bad engine so you buy the more expensive GPUs. Its fun to theorize, but its likely just incompetence. :D

EDIT: Oh and some of those games have frame generation or upscaling forced on! ARK even has FG hidden, and it doesn't even work! Like its, legit broken. And Marvel Rivals has upscaling forced on. Also Marvel Rivals frame gen is broken as well, and Infinity Nikki also forces FG judging by the ghosting I'm seeing and no way to disable it. Its ridiculous.

[Kyutaru]

Originally posted by DaddyEcho69:

Yes its an UE5 thing. Either that or every dev using UE5 as of late is the equal amount of lazy. Marvel Rivals, The First Descendant, Infinity Nikki, STALKER 2, Monster Hunter Wilds beta, Steel Hunters beta, ARK Ascended, Silent Hill 2, all use UE5, all rely on upscalers, FDR, and a 2000$ GPU to get anywhere near playable framerate. And half of them don't even look like a modern title.

Infinity Nikki, Marvel Rivals, STALKER 2 look like 10 year old titles, or simply have stylized graphics that aren't going for realism, and they still run like ♥♥♥♥. So yeah either UE5 bad, or every one of those devs using UE5 is bad.

Also a better conspiracy is UE5 working with NVIDIA and purposefully making a bad engine so you buy the more expensive GPUs. Its fun to theorize, but its likely just incompetence. :D

EDIT: Oh and some of those games have frame generation or upscaling forced on! ARK even has FG hidden, and it doesn't even work! Like its, legit broken. And Marvel Rivals has upscaling forced on. Also Marvel Rivals frame gen is broken as well, and Infinity Nikki also forces FG judging by the ghosting I'm seeing and no way to disable it. Its ridiculous.

Disagree. I recently upgraded to a new laptop sporting a 4060, i9 14th gen, m.2 ssd, and 32gb of ddr5 ram on Windows 11. I was playing Marvel Rivals and Stalker 2 prior to the upgrade and both ran like garbage. I too was disheartened. Yet all problems sorted themselves out upon upgrading.

My crash log is clean, I haven't crashed in Marvel Rivals once. No Strange portals slow me down, no levels take forever to load, nothing at all. My experience in Stalker 2 has only been smooth. The machine cost me half of what you're saying you need to spend and being a laptop heat is a major issue normally... yet even my fans are relatively quiet as the system isn't experiencing a heavy load.

I've been mapping the issues people report throughout these boards since launch. The three things that seem to make the largest difference are Windows 11, an SSD, and a 40 series cards. In one thread I found, the user complained about issues then reported all of them disappeared upon upgrading to Windows 11 -- presumably due to DirectX 12 Ultimate being exclusive to Windows 11, so you can't get the latest upgrade without it. Another several threads reported that SSDs solved their issues, including my own friend who struggled loading and playing the game before and now can do so easily using his new M.2 SSD which he got for Christmas. Meanwhile, the latest DLSS is primarily optimized for 40 series NVIDIA cards, as even Throne and Liberty warns you of in their options menu.

Additionally, NVIDIA dropped drivers when the game launched that seemed necessary for peak performance while Intel has had an issue with its chips brought to light by UE5 that required a recent BIOS patch. No UE5 games give me pause now as they run well when the system provides them what they need -- hardware and software alike. AI Generation is the new way of doing things and the way NVIDIA is coding and creating their GPUs, so everyone has to follow suit and work on generating their own effects and shaders because the days where NVIDIA will drop drivers that include shaders specific to a game are over. The onus is on the game devs to handle it themselves.

Because of all of this, utilizing the latest hardware and software upgrades will be important to maintaining sufficient performance at least until we are done with this experimental tech era. These major companies are pushing the envelope as they forge a new standard for game design and that means games will release that demand the same level of tech powering them. In another thread, two users with similar systems experienced a bold difference in performance experience and the sole difference between them was one was still running Windows 10 while the other had upgraded to Windows 11 and had no issues.