Make penni's Nest device invisible (that becomes visible when you are on the nest itself)

[Ballistixz]

I know bad players ♥♥♥♥♥ about penni, but in reality she isnt good, and its mostly because she is tied to her webs and mines. Which would be fine, because it means she stays in one spot, but the issue is her device gets 1-2 tapped by nearly every thing in the game.

gold and lower players might say im insane or think that penni needs a nerf, but these players literally ignore a device that has 350 HP regardless, so it wont even matter if its invisible, it changes nothing for them. vs players with a couple brain cells, however, they know that without the nest Penni is a training bot and will just 1-2 shot it with hera, hawkeye, widow, etc.

[Nydas]

no. Legit, all the deployables have way to much health.

Pick Wolverine and try killing her nest. Its insane how long it takes. Even hawkeye takes multiple hits to kill Rockest E or Namors turret.

[Ballistixz]

Originally posted by Nydas:

no. Legit, all the deployables have way to much health.

Pick Wolverine and try killing her nest. Its insane how long it takes. Even hawkeye takes multiple hits to kill Rockest E or Namors turret.

wolverine doesnt get stacks off her nest, thats why. its absolutely clown behavior to try and kill a nest with wolverine or any melee for that matter. The fact that her nest is designed specifically to counter melee characters should be common sense enough for that...

[Wacky (LucentLogan)]

It should have a portion of shield hp that regenerates after a certain amount of time taking no damage.

[Nydas]

Originally posted by Ballistixz:

Originally posted by Nydas:

no. Legit, all the deployables have way to much health.

Pick Wolverine and try killing her nest. Its insane how long it takes. Even hawkeye takes multiple hits to kill Rockest E or Namors turret.

wolverine doesnt get stacks off her nest, thats why. its absolutely clown behavior to try and kill a nest with wolverine or any melee for that matter. The fact that her nest is designed specifically to counter melee characters should be common sense enough for that...

Funny how you ignored the rest of the comment. Literally the strongest single target shot takes multiple seconds to kill a nest, at the cost of one cooldown ability for Pennie.

[Shuyin178]

As a Peni Parker main, no. Just no.
You can tell the difference between a good Peni and a bad one based on where, when, and how they use their Nest. If you're just slapping it out in the open for no reason, you deserve to have it sniped to destruction. A big part of Peni's skill ceiling involves her nest, including both the when, where, and how, but also if you keep it in mind enough to recall it to recover its HP before it does end up destroyed because when you recall it its cooldown is based on its HP.
You can also use it offensively too when your team wants/needs to dive into a scrap. You jump in, slap it down, ult, and throw hands with your team.

[Advanced Nap Techs]

If you have trouble killing her nest and traps, good. That's what she's intended to do, lock down an area so divers die there. Swap to Iron Man and you can delete it.

I'm tired of powers that act as noob gates getting nerfed because people don't want to learn. It messes up the balance. Everyone's complaining about Iron Fist and Spider-Man, but they're too dumb to realise mines and spiders counter them diving and ask for Peni nerfs.

Same thing with Namor squids. That's your air cover. That's what was SUPPOSED to keep the skies clear and protect you from "PURE CHAOS", but you wouldn't stop walking into them during beta and now they can't do their job.

All the balance problem heroes in the game NOW, are from nerfs due to complaints in the beta weakening their counters.

[Ballistixz]

Originally posted by Nydas:

Originally posted by Ballistixz:

wolverine doesnt get stacks off her nest, thats why. its absolutely clown behavior to try and kill a nest with wolverine or any melee for that matter. The fact that her nest is designed specifically to counter melee characters should be common sense enough for that...

Funny how you ignored the rest of the comment. Literally the strongest single target shot takes multiple seconds to kill a nest, at the cost of one cooldown ability for Pennie.

Usually you have multiple people firing on any device, not just 1 idiot wolverine trying to take it down by himself. If you have only 1 DPS trying to take out a device, then you have a team issue going on there. Penni's device dies extremely fast if its unguarded, and most players are not gonna sit with penni to guard it in solo que.

[Ballistixz]

Originally posted by Shuyin178:

As a Peni Parker main, no. Just no.
You can tell the difference between a good Peni and a bad one based on where, when, and how they use their Nest. If you're just slapping it out in the open for no reason, you deserve to have it sniped to destruction. A big part of Peni's skill ceiling involves her nest, including both the when, where, and how, but also if you keep it in mind enough to recall it to recover its HP before it does end up destroyed because when you recall it its cooldown is based on its HP.
You can also use it offensively too when your team wants/needs to dive into a scrap. You jump in, slap it down, ult, and throw hands with your team.

Her ult and the mines from her nest are actually bait. they only deal 40 dmg per mine, but her E mines deal 100 per mine. So in reality her mines from the nest itself does non existent damage. the damage comes from stacking her E mines in the nest or another web at a choke.

[Mochan]

Nah. I'm a Peni main and no, just no. Invisible turrets are a no-no. Imagine if Torb's turret were invisibile? Bad game design and it would feel unfair.