Why is Wolverine not good? :: Marvel Rivals General Discussions

Nosgoth

Dec 31, 2024 @ 4:07am

Its like WoW classic warriour you need a pocket healer with you .

#31

Xan

Dec 31, 2024 @ 4:35am

Because his DPS is tied to FPS, low FPS = low DPS

#32

SecularStoner has Marvel Rivals

Dec 31, 2024 @ 6:33am

Originally posted by Xan:
Because his DPS is tied to FPS, low FPS = low DPS

Good thing I run 110+ fps.

#33

Rayman.

Dec 31, 2024 @ 6:42am

one thing u could try is follow one otp wolverine person called Teamcaptain. Just type marvel rivals wolverine teamcaptain and u'll find him. Watched his video with clips hitting rank 1 and he was kidnapping enemy tanks to let your teammates kill much easier.

#34

weirdkid5

Dec 31, 2024 @ 6:54am

Originally posted by Agonist:
Originally posted by SecularSmoker:
I just got a 5 KO with my ultimate. He can't be that bad. Won the game with it.
Yea sure bro, only like 0.5% got the achievement to kill 3 people with his ult...but im sure u got 5 :/

Probably cause only .5% people actually play him. I know I've never picked him even once.

#35

SecularStoner has Marvel Rivals

Dec 31, 2024 @ 6:58am

Originally posted by weirdkid5:
Originally posted by Agonist:
Yea sure bro, only like 0.5% got the achievement to kill 3 people with his ult...but im sure u got 5 :/
Probably cause only .5% people actually play him. I know I've never picked him even once.

I've got like 500 or so kills with Wolverine.

#36

Timeraider has Marvel Rivals

Dec 31, 2024 @ 6:59am

He requires skill, meaning thats what most players struggle with

#37

SecularStoner has Marvel Rivals

Dec 31, 2024 @ 7:09am

Originally posted by Timeraider:
He requires skill, meaning thats what most players struggle with

I just realized I have the rarest achievement in Marvel Rivals

#38

Jarek Defiler has Marvel Rivals

Dec 31, 2024 @ 9:43am

What makes Wolverine not good is that he is pretty much the only hero that is forced to play a very specific way in order to be effective. He is extremely ability reliant which means the majority of the time you have to sit on the sidelines waiting for your leap and damage reduction to come off cooldown before you go back in again. No other hero has to do this as egregiously as Wolverine. Other heroes can still fight when an ability or two is off cooldown and be effective. Hela, Psylocke and Punisher can still shoot. Wolverine cannot, lest he just dies.

On top of that, he has the most inconsistent ability in the game: Feral Leap. Sure, some will tell you to simply dash into the enemy and then leap, but that is just more reasoning as to why he's bad. You shouldn't have to rely so heavily on one ability to have another work. Spiderman doesn't have to rely on Web Swing for Get Over Here to work. Feral Leap should work on its own without needing to dash in first.

Outside of Dr. Strange's portal, he has the longest CD ability in the game at 86 seconds. It also happens to be the one that his entire lore revolves around: his regenerative abilities. However, Venom gets basically the same ability one a 15 second cooldown. Makes sense...

His damage against non-tanks is abysmal even when at full rage. For example, it takes him 9 (main attack) hits at full rage to kill a Luna. It takes a minimum of 12 hits with no rage. It takes Luna 5 hits to kill him with body shots despite him having 25 more hp. So if you miss that Feral Leap, good luck!

These are just a few reasons as to why he's bad. If you watch TeamCaptain's stream, you will see him talking about how he doesn't understand why Feral Leap doesn't connect. You will also see him spending the majority of matches on the sidelines on rooftops and balconies waiting for his abilities to come off cooldown so he can actually go in and do something to be effective. Not his fault, that's just the bad design of Wolverine.

It's a shame because Wolverine has become my most played hero. I love him as he is a lot of fun...when he works. But he is objectively the worst hero in the game. Just because someone can make him work in a very niche, somewhat stale fashion, doesn't mean he's not a bad hero. I've gotten many MVP matches on him and most kills blah, blah, blah, that still doesn't take away from his Feral Leap being broken, his regeneration passive being ridiculous, his damage against non-tanks being laughable, etc. It's all a culmination of poor design choices that make him bad.

#39

SecularStoner has Marvel Rivals

Dec 31, 2024 @ 10:01am

Originally posted by Jarek Defiler:
What makes Wolverine not good is that he is pretty much the only hero that is forced to play a very specific way in order to be effective. He is extremely ability reliant which means the majority of the time you have to sit on the sidelines waiting for your leap and damage reduction to come off cooldown before you go back in again. No other hero has to do this as egregiously as Wolverine. Other heroes can still fight when an ability or two is off cooldown and be effective. Hela, Psylocke and Punisher can still shoot. Wolverine cannot, lest he just dies.

On top of that, he has the most inconsistent ability in the game: Feral Leap. Sure, some will tell you to simply dash into the enemy and then leap, but that is just more reasoning as to why he's bad. You shouldn't have to rely so heavily on one ability to have another work. Spiderman doesn't have to rely on Web Swing for Get Over Here to work. Feral Leap should work on its own without needing to dash in first.

Outside of Dr. Strange's portal, he has the longest CD ability in the game at 86 seconds. It also happens to be the one that his entire lore revolves around: his regenerative abilities. However, Venom gets basically the same ability one a 15 second cooldown. Makes sense...

His damage against non-tanks is abysmal even when at full rage. For example, it takes him 9 (main attack) hits at full rage to kill a Luna. It takes a minimum of 12 hits with no rage. It takes Luna 5 hits to kill him with body shots despite him having 25 more hp. So if you miss that Feral Leap, good luck!

These are just a few reasons as to why he's bad. If you watch TeamCaptain's stream, you will see him talking about how he doesn't understand why Feral Leap doesn't connect. You will also see him spending the majority of matches on the sidelines on rooftops and balconies waiting for his abilities to come off cooldown so he can actually go in and do something to be effective. Not his fault, that's just the bad design of Wolverine.

It's a shame because Wolverine has become my most played hero. I love him as he is a lot of fun...when he works. But he is objectively the worst hero in the game. Just because someone can make him work in a very niche, somewhat stale fashion, doesn't mean he's not a bad hero. I've gotten many MVP matches on him and most kills blah, blah, blah, that still doesn't take away from his Feral Leap being broken, his regeneration passive being ridiculous, his damage against non-tanks being laughable, etc. It's all a culmination of poor design choices that make him bad.

Your first paragraph explains the whole game. Everyone has to pick and choose their targets. And his damage against non tanks is abysmal? Care to 1v1 me as a healer or dps? As long as you're not hawkeye I win. I think you're just bad.

#40

SecularStoner has Marvel Rivals

Dec 31, 2024 @ 10:02am

Originally posted by SecularSmoker:
Originally posted by Jarek Defiler:
What makes Wolverine not good is that he is pretty much the only hero that is forced to play a very specific way in order to be effective. He is extremely ability reliant which means the majority of the time you have to sit on the sidelines waiting for your leap and damage reduction to come off cooldown before you go back in again. No other hero has to do this as egregiously as Wolverine. Other heroes can still fight when an ability or two is off cooldown and be effective. Hela, Psylocke and Punisher can still shoot. Wolverine cannot, lest he just dies.

On top of that, he has the most inconsistent ability in the game: Feral Leap. Sure, some will tell you to simply dash into the enemy and then leap, but that is just more reasoning as to why he's bad. You shouldn't have to rely so heavily on one ability to have another work. Spiderman doesn't have to rely on Web Swing for Get Over Here to work. Feral Leap should work on its own without needing to dash in first.

Outside of Dr. Strange's portal, he has the longest CD ability in the game at 86 seconds. It also happens to be the one that his entire lore revolves around: his regenerative abilities. However, Venom gets basically the same ability one a 15 second cooldown. Makes sense...

His damage against non-tanks is abysmal even when at full rage. For example, it takes him 9 (main attack) hits at full rage to kill a Luna. It takes a minimum of 12 hits with no rage. It takes Luna 5 hits to kill him with body shots despite him having 25 more hp. So if you miss that Feral Leap, good luck!

These are just a few reasons as to why he's bad. If you watch TeamCaptain's stream, you will see him talking about how he doesn't understand why Feral Leap doesn't connect. You will also see him spending the majority of matches on the sidelines on rooftops and balconies waiting for his abilities to come off cooldown so he can actually go in and do something to be effective. Not his fault, that's just the bad design of Wolverine.

It's a shame because Wolverine has become my most played hero. I love him as he is a lot of fun...when he works. But he is objectively the worst hero in the game. Just because someone can make him work in a very niche, somewhat stale fashion, doesn't mean he's not a bad hero. I've gotten many MVP matches on him and most kills blah, blah, blah, that still doesn't take away from his Feral Leap being broken, his regeneration passive being ridiculous, his damage against non-tanks being laughable, etc. It's all a culmination of poor design choices that make him bad.

Your first paragraph explains the whole game. Everyone has to pick and choose their targets. And his damage against non tanks is abysmal? Care to 1v1 me as a healer or dps? As long as you're not hawkeye I win. I think you're just bad. Every character I've played with has to do everything you mentioned.

#41

legocory Jan 4 @ 3:53pm

I'm sure Marvel will nerf Wolverine's abilities a bit.😓

Last edited by legocory; Jan 5 @ 7:07am

#42

FAT WANZER has Marvel Rivals

Jan 5 @ 7:08am

Originally posted by legocory:
I'm sure Marvel will nerf Wolverine's abilities a bit.😓

honestly don't think so since he shred tanks fast

#43

legocory Jan 5 @ 6:42pm

Originally posted by FAT WANZER:
Originally posted by legocory:
I'm sure Marvel will nerf Wolverine's abilities a bit.😓
honestly don't think so since he shred tanks fast

Okay then. To me, I'll add the Marvel Rivals characters to my Lego vs. Heronicle crossover.

#44

Lambi

Jan 5 @ 7:14pm

Originally posted by SecularSmoker:
Your first paragraph explains the whole game. Everyone has to pick and choose their targets. And his damage against non tanks is abysmal? Care to 1v1 me as a healer or dps? As long as you're not hawkeye I win. I think you're just bad.

First of all, why are you spamming this comment section with basically "1v1 me bro"?

But secondly, to the person you responded to's point: You are being overwhelmingly reductive to it. Not many, if any heroes are as playstyle specific as Wolverine. As he even mentions, if you're playing like Hela, Psylocke, Star Lord, etc etc, then you can generally still operate decently as a character even with some abilities on CD. But not Wolverine.

#45

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