What is this Black Widow design!?

[R3d_Rain+]

I understand not wanting to let a hit scan weapon not one tap people, that's fine. But the melee button does as much damage as the batons lmb, with rifle and baton, and the batons BARELY attacks faster than rifle melee 3 times. It barely has more range, and the e is her only real ability with such a long cooldown. What is that?!?!!?!?

Like if you wanted to try and fight someone who's diving you, I would've hoped you could rifle shot, e1 e2, switch to melee and actually fight but there's NO WAY you can do that. Oh my god how butchered is that

Give her melee weapon significant damage and give her a second spell (shock traps, a spray, anything), you don't even have to give her rifle anything, and she'd be so much better off.

[Monolith Brookshadow]

Originally posted by R3d_Rain+:

I understand not wanting to let a hit scan weapon not one tap people, that's fine. But the melee button does as much damage as the batons lmb, with rifle and baton, and the batons BARELY attacks faster than rifle melee 3 times. It barely has more range, and the e is her only real ability with such a long cooldown. What is that?!?!!?!?

Like if you wanted to try and fight someone who's diving you, I would've hoped you could rifle shot, e1 e2, switch to melee and actually fight but there's NO WAY you can do that. Oh my god how butchered is that

Give her melee weapon significant damage and give her a second spell (shock traps, a spray, anything), you don't even have to give her rifle anything, and she'd be so much better off.

Kinda surprised she doesn't have her "widows bite" wrist taser things.

[yikez]

Originally posted by R3d_Rain+:

I understand not wanting to let a hit scan weapon not one tap people, that's fine. But the melee button does as much damage as the batons lmb, with rifle and baton, and the batons BARELY attacks faster than rifle melee 3 times. It barely has more range, and the e is her only real ability with such a long cooldown. What is that?!?!!?!?

Like if you wanted to try and fight someone who's diving you, I would've hoped you could rifle shot, e1 e2, switch to melee and actually fight but there's NO WAY you can do that. Oh my god how butchered is that

Give her melee weapon significant damage and give her a second spell (shock traps, a spray, anything), you don't even have to give her rifle anything, and she'd be so much better off.

the lbm and melee are the same for a reason lolol. instead of swapping to finish off someone diving you, you can just hit melee button and have same effect so no need to pull out batons under pressure. she is a great fit for the game and i agree that maybe her kick should be changed but ive combo'd into primary fire with it and it is a good ability. her ult is her taser ♥♥♥♥ so no need to add that. all in all just practice in the range with some combos that she offers

[Mitrovarr]

I have absolutely no idea why they gave the sniper melee attacks. Her design is kind of wild and doesn't make much sense.

[BottleCap]

Originally posted by Mitrovarr:

I have absolutely no idea why they gave the sniper melee attacks. Her design is kind of wild and doesn't make much sense.

Because there are a lot of divers in the game that can go straight to the backside and she needs some way to defend and keep herself alive until the rest of the team come to help if called, heroes like Venom, Spiderman, Iron Fist, Black Panther, Thor, Hulk Winter Soldier with his hook can grab and pull her.... the same can be said for Moon Knight with his melee attacks and he's almost a sniper with a burst machine gun to be honest

[R3d_Rain+]

Originally posted by yikez:

Originally posted by R3d_Rain+:

I understand not wanting to let a hit scan weapon not one tap people, that's fine. But the melee button does as much damage as the batons lmb, with rifle and baton, and the batons BARELY attacks faster than rifle melee 3 times. It barely has more range, and the e is her only real ability with such a long cooldown. What is that?!?!!?!?

Like if you wanted to try and fight someone who's diving you, I would've hoped you could rifle shot, e1 e2, switch to melee and actually fight but there's NO WAY you can do that. Oh my god how butchered is that

Give her melee weapon significant damage and give her a second spell (shock traps, a spray, anything), you don't even have to give her rifle anything, and she'd be so much better off.

the lbm and melee are the same for a reason lolol. instead of swapping to finish off someone diving you, you can just hit melee button and have same effect so no need to pull out batons under pressure. she is a great fit for the game and i agree that maybe her kick should be changed but ive combo'd into primary fire with it and it is a good ability. her ult is her taser ♥♥♥♥ so no need to add that. all in all just practice in the range with some combos that she offers

Auto e1 e2 melee doesn't one shot anyone tho; by the time you do auto e1 e2 rechamber a shot and auto again you're dead.

[Nessie the Plesiosaur]

Originally posted by R3d_Rain+:

Originally posted by yikez:

the lbm and melee are the same for a reason lolol. instead of swapping to finish off someone diving you, you can just hit melee button and have same effect so no need to pull out batons under pressure. she is a great fit for the game and i agree that maybe her kick should be changed but ive combo'd into primary fire with it and it is a good ability. her ult is her taser ♥♥♥♥ so no need to add that. all in all just practice in the range with some combos that she offers

Auto e1 e2 melee doesn't one shot anyone tho; by the time you do auto e1 e2 rechamber a shot and auto again you're dead.

Yep tis stupid she cant reload while kicking. By the time you finish your reload after grappling stun, enemy will fly off or instant 1 shot you.

[Jesi]

I am gonna agree this time... she dont need melee and I have never seen anyone using it. Even with melee combo (Kick/Grapple) people are using rifle anyway.

[Frosty the Pyro]

Originally posted by Monolith Brookshadow:

Originally posted by R3d_Rain+:

I understand not wanting to let a hit scan weapon not one tap people, that's fine. But the melee button does as much damage as the batons lmb, with rifle and baton, and the batons BARELY attacks faster than rifle melee 3 times. It barely has more range, and the e is her only real ability with such a long cooldown. What is that?!?!!?!?

Like if you wanted to try and fight someone who's diving you, I would've hoped you could rifle shot, e1 e2, switch to melee and actually fight but there's NO WAY you can do that. Oh my god how butchered is that

Give her melee weapon significant damage and give her a second spell (shock traps, a spray, anything), you don't even have to give her rifle anything, and she'd be so much better off.

Kinda surprised she doesn't have her "widows bite" wrist taser things.

she does, its in her second kick though, the one with the graple hook, provides a stun.