Fake player numbers and fraud. Bots are infesting the servers.

[Tighty-Whitey]

it is no secret that the remaining players in marvel rivals are experiencing difficulties in terms of matches and play. the queue times in marvel rivals are aimed to be fast in any way possible and when the game cannot quickly find other players, because the game isn't actually played by as many people as steam displays, the game brute forces the player and even their entire team into a match with bots. at first those players don't believe it, but upon further look they see that their moves are literally the same and devs aren't even trying to hide it.

in case someone didn't know, this game is developed by a chinese studio. those are infamous for being able to create a lot of bots and spyware going against people's expectations in western countries, to spy on them by retrieving critical data and selling such data. creating bots and keeping the numbers fake was not difficult to them either. the bots they've set up have private profiles and they do count to the overall player number that's actually a lot lower than people were led to believe.

and since a lot of people feel concerned about the game being botted, just like some of the other steam discussions in this hub, we can see that the reputation of marvel rivals is already at risk and people are worried that the game will not last with such a questionable decision. but in reality, since this game is just one big advertisement for other marvel stuff and mediocre movies, devs of this game have already invested into the game's potential and inevitable popularity decline in months to come, so they've set up bots in advance, bots that hide under player names, which is a tremendous fraud. this explains why the influx of users in this particular hub isn't that high, even though supposedly the game is supposed to be played by around 200k players. turns out that is not true and those are just bots set up by the developers to not only inflate the player number, but to deceive certain players that they are doing well so that they won't quit the game. some justify it by saying that "it's because the game is made for kids" but it's not how it works, a good game with a good matchmaking system wouldn't need that kind of desperate measures, it would find skill matched players, so really seeing this kind of tendency and the desperation of the developers is not new.

this is why this game is not actually popular and isn't actually liked, the game simply cannot provide the players for months to come, which is why they had to resort to bots to inflate fake player numbers. this kind of tendency in the online videogame industry is concerning to people and for a good reason. not only that, but there are also a lot of cheaters and combined with lack of quality content and support from the developers in the months to come, because it is difficult to maintain a modern multiplayer game with content that can keep a large amount of players invested, also marvel rivals being a convoluted game with elements that are detrimental to its longevity and lack of measures against cheaters the game will not last long and has an uncertain future ahead.

[Beef]

The game isn't perfect, but a lot of this is just blatantly false. For example, the bots do NOT have player profiles, you can check your matches on external sites like tracker.gg and it will show which players are bots because they don't have profiles (players with private profiles still show up in the match lists), and they also wouldn't have Steam accounts to count toward player numbers there. Some may not like them, sure, but I'd rather have full teams more often and short queue times. I think the bots are fine.

[MiseRawRble.]

Originally posted by Beef:

The game isn't perfect, but a lot of this is just blatantly false. For example, the bots do NOT have player profiles, you can check your matches on external sites like tracker.gg and it will show which players are bots because they don't have profiles (players with private profiles still show up in the match lists), and they also wouldn't have Steam accounts to count toward player numbers there. Some may not like them, sure, but I'd rather have full teams more often and short queue times. I think the bots are fine.

bots aren't fine, this is an excuse to inflate player numbers in marvel rivals.

[NotReallyMyName]

Originally posted by MiseRawRble.:

Originally posted by Beef:

The game isn't perfect, but a lot of this is just blatantly false. For example, the bots do NOT have player profiles, you can check your matches on external sites like tracker.gg and it will show which players are bots because they don't have profiles (players with private profiles still show up in the match lists), and they also wouldn't have Steam accounts to count toward player numbers there. Some may not like them, sure, but I'd rather have full teams more often and short queue times. I think the bots are fine.

bots aren't fine, this is an excuse to inflate player numbers in marvel rivals.

Yeah, bots aren't fine atm, they are too damn stupid. If we had bots that could rival pro players in game it would be much more fun. 'Oh no, I have real players on my team, we are so ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ cooked' would be way more fun of a sentence than 'oh, it's bots again, did I lose three games in a row already?'.

[KeV]

Bots don't count towards player numbers. Take your conspiracy theories elsewhere, MiseRawRble

[Beef]

Originally posted by MiseRawRble.:

bots aren't fine, this is an excuse to inflate player numbers in marvel rivals.

It doesn't inflate the player numbers, bots don't have profiles. If they do, post a screenshot.

Edit:Fixed quote attribution, not sure why the reply button didn't get it right.

[KeV]

Originally posted by Beef:

Originally posted by KeV:

bots aren't fine, this is an excuse to inflate player numbers in marvel rivals.

It doesn't inflate the player numbers, bots don't have profiles. If they do, post a screenshot.

Hey hey, you misquoted there. I would never say such bs :D

[MiseRawRble.]

Originally posted by KeV:

Bots don't count towards player numbers. Take your conspiracy theories elsewhere, MiseRawRble

most of the conspiracy theories were proven to be true, but this isn't a theory here because we have data to support it.

[SadPlatty©]

Originally posted by MiseRawRble.:

most of the conspiracy theories were proven to be true, but this isn't a theory here because we have data to support it.

Except in 3 weeks, you still cannot actually show this data; sounds like it still doesn't exist.

You have yet to provide one single link for the dozens of threads to have "facts" in, and always disappear when caught.

[I'm in immense pain.]

Originally posted by SadPlatty©:

Originally posted by MiseRawRble.:

most of the conspiracy theories were proven to be true, but this isn't a theory here because we have data to support it.

Except in 3 weeks, you still cannot actually show this data; sounds like it still doesn't exist.

You have yet to provide one single link for the dozens of threads to have "facts" in, and always disappear when caught.

not a conspiracy unfortunately, but this specific posts topic itself is wrong as to why the bots exist, this megathread covers the issue with proof and accuracy steam://openurl/https://steamcommunity.com/app/2767030/discussions/0/591757960657544586/

[SadPlatty©]

Originally posted by I'm in immense pain.:

not a conspiracy unfortunately, but this specific posts topic itself is wrong as to why the bots exist, this megathread covers the issue with proof and accuracy steam://openurl/https://steamcommunity.com/app/2767030/discussions/0/591757960657544586/

Honestly though (and I am at a point of saying this daily it seems); OP and his ilk didn't provide this link.

You had to. If you didn't, they quite literally told me before "I don't have to show you anything". Generally - they just ignore the posts asking for proof, or will twist words to say you just are blinded by emotion.

I appreciate you having the information available, but I want OP to troll better if they are going to breath down 6 communities necks daily. Have some links and make it less obvious and they will be rid of me.

[Beef]

Originally posted by SadPlatty©:

Originally posted by I'm in immense pain.:

not a conspiracy unfortunately, but this specific posts topic itself is wrong as to why the bots exist, this megathread covers the issue with proof and accuracy steam://openurl/https://steamcommunity.com/app/2767030/discussions/0/591757960657544586/

Honestly though (and I am at a point of saying this daily it seems); OP and his ilk didn't provide this link.

You had to. If you didn't, they quite literally told me before "I don't have to show you anything". Generally - they just ignore the posts asking for proof, or will twist words to say you just are blinded by emotion.

I appreciate you having the information available, but I want OP to troll better if they are going to breath down 6 communities necks daily. Have some links and make it less obvious and they will be rid of me.

The trolling/BS/conspiracy part is that they count toward player numbers, not that they exist. I still see no evidence supporting that claim.

[MiseRawRble.]

Originally posted by I'm in immense pain.:

Originally posted by SadPlatty©:

Except in 3 weeks, you still cannot actually show this data; sounds like it still doesn't exist.

You have yet to provide one single link for the dozens of threads to have "facts" in, and always disappear when caught.

not a conspiracy unfortunately, but this specific posts topic itself is wrong as to why the bots exist, this megathread covers the issue with proof and accuracy steam://openurl/https://steamcommunity.com/app/2767030/discussions/0/591757960657544586/

see, there are fake players and inflated bots in marvel rivals as your link shows. this topic just raised more caution to newer players.

[I'm in immense pain.]

Originally posted by Beef:

Originally posted by SadPlatty©:

Honestly though (and I am at a point of saying this daily it seems); OP and his ilk didn't provide this link.

You had to. If you didn't, they quite literally told me before "I don't have to show you anything". Generally - they just ignore the posts asking for proof, or will twist words to say you just are blinded by emotion.

I appreciate you having the information available, but I want OP to troll better if they are going to breath down 6 communities necks daily. Have some links and make it less obvious and they will be rid of me.

The trolling/BS/conspiracy part is that they count toward player numbers, not that they exist. I still see no evidence supporting that claim.

there isn't any lmao, op doesnt know what he's talking about

[©ThΣKämikαzeMΏήkΞ¥s™]

Every tripple A companies that create live service freemium p2w games always inflate their stats to get investors and publicity to increase every number. Welcome to the corporate world.

[Tighty-Whitey]

Originally posted by ©ThΣKämikαzeMΏήkΞ¥s™:

Every tripple A companies that create live service freemium p2w games always inflate their stats to get investors and publicity to increase every number. Welcome to the corporate world.

corporate world tends to be like that where studios are trying to find any possible way to maximize profits, even if it requries them to lie to players. with marvel rivals for example they've decided to host bots to inflate the player number to boost players' motivation to try the game.